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 Post subject: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:20 pm 
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Hello, I am a noob when it comes to PCs, but my friend has given me some advice.
He has recommended these parts:

Power supply:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004IZN3K ... =pc&sr=1-1

Graphics card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... p1ti09ova2

Tower case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811121003

Processor:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0093H8H8 ... cs&sr=1-11

Motherboard:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007RIFJP ... =pc&sr=1-5

SSD:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009NHAF0 ... =pc&sr=1-1

RAM:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0037TO5C ... =pc&sr=1-7

Wireless:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ATXJRD ... ics&sr=1-1

DVD drive:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009654JW ... =pc&sr=1-3

Monitor:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005BZNEV ... =pc&sr=1-1

Are these parts compatible with each other?
Am I missing anything?
Any general tips are welcome!


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:47 pm 
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Few things here...

  • What's your budget?
  • If you're ordering from Amazon, try to consolidate vendors as much as possible, otherwise you may be paying way more than you should be for shipping
    • Also be aware of any return policies (or lack thereof). I usually stick to either Newegg or TigerDirect because they have really good return policies
  • Reconsider getting a Z77 or socket 1155 board, as it's a dead end for processor upgrades
  • Avoid getting motherboards more expensive than $150 unless you're going to use those features or it has something you need.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:15 pm 
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Also:

What are you wanting to do with this computer? You seem to be all over the board with this build - you have lower-end CPU and GPU, but a high-end motherboard and SSD.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:38 am 
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btdog wrote:
Also:

What are you wanting to do with this computer? You seem to be all over the board with this build - you have lower-end CPU and GPU, but a high-end motherboard and SSD.


The parts were thrown together quite quickly. My friend said that a higher-end motherboard and SSD were recommended for reliability.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:40 am 
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LatiosXT wrote:
Few things here...

  • What's your budget?
  • If you're ordering from Amazon, try to consolidate vendors as much as possible, otherwise you may be paying way more than you should be for shipping
    • Also be aware of any return policies (or lack thereof). I usually stick to either Newegg or TigerDirect because they have really good return policies
  • Reconsider getting a Z77 or socket 1155 board, as it's a dead end for processor upgrades
  • Avoid getting motherboards more expensive than $150 unless you're going to use those features or it has something you need.


My budget is about ~$900. I greatly appreciate the tips!


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:48 am 
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Let us know what you want to do with this computer - it makes a big difference as to what we would recommend.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:03 am 
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btdog wrote:
Let us know what you want to do with this computer - it makes a big difference as to what we would recommend.

Primarily gaming


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:44 pm 
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ssbb wrote:
Primarily gaming


Primarily gaming. Okay and what else. Primarily leaves it open to do other things. What other things?
CAD?
Video editing?
Sound editing?
Browsing the internet/emailing/etc.?
Home theater?
Home network?
We can recommend changes to the 'primarily gaming' computer to accommodate the rest. But that changes depending on what else, other than gaming, you are doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:48 pm 
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dedgar wrote:
ssbb wrote:
Primarily gaming


Primarily gaming. Okay and what else. Primarily leaves it open to do other things. What other things?
CAD?
Video editing?
Sound editing?
Browsing the internet/emailing/etc.?
Home theater?
Home network?
We can recommend changes to the 'primarily gaming' computer to accommodate the rest. But that changes depending on what else, other than gaming, you are doing.

It's gonna be a home network. Definitely browsing the internet and emailing. That's pretty much it.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:06 pm 
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Everything I have listed here I looked up on newegg.com:

AMD FX-4350 Vishera 4.2GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4350FRHKBOX $130

ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $79 ($69 after MIR)

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 CPU cooler $35 ($30 after MIR)

SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version $155 ($140 after MIR)

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1600C11 $63 ($53 after MIR)

COOLER MASTER Extreme 2 RS-525-PCAR 525W ATX 12V V2.3 Power Supply $50

SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM $15

TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $70

HEC 6K28BB8F Black 0.8mm SECC Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case $40

Logitech G105 920-003371 Black 6 Function Keys USB Wired Gaming Keyboard $60

Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode Scroll Wheel USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse $60

Acer G236HLBbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor 200 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1 (600:1) $110

I don't know if you would prefer WIN 7 or 8 but the OEM version of each is $100 on newegg.com

This totals $967 before shipping and before rebates. Your list didn't have a keyboard/mouse/operating system listed. You save $35 dollars in Mail In Rebates to bring the price down to $932. Don't forget that you will have to pay shipping. But ordering it all at one time from one company (such as newegg.com) will combine shipping costs and save money.
So, this good enough for you?

I didn't include an ethernet card as I have no idea what you currently have for the internet access. So that will add a few bucks to the cost. If you can run a CAT5 cable to your access point it will be faster connection and less expensive.

Another thing I noticed is that you only had an SSD listed. 120GB is not nearly enough for a gamer. Believe me, I know. So you would have had to add another drive to increase the cost more.
What you didn't have in your list:
Operating system
Keyboard
Mouse
2nd hard drive since 120GB is not enough


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:23 pm 
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dedgar wrote:
Everything I have listed here I looked up on newegg.com:

AMD FX-4350 Vishera 4.2GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4350FRHKBOX $130

ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $79 ($69 after MIR)

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 CPU cooler $35 ($30 after MIR)

SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version $155 ($140 after MIR)

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1600C11 $63 ($53 after MIR)

COOLER MASTER Extreme 2 RS-525-PCAR 525W ATX 12V V2.3 Power Supply $50

SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM $15

TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $70

HEC 6K28BB8F Black 0.8mm SECC Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case $40

Logitech G105 920-003371 Black 6 Function Keys USB Wired Gaming Keyboard $60

Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode Scroll Wheel USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse $60

Acer G236HLBbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor 200 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1 (600:1) $110

I don't know if you would prefer WIN 7 or 8 but the OEM version of each is $100 on newegg.com

This totals $967 before shipping and before rebates. Your list didn't have a keyboard/mouse/operating system listed. You save $35 dollars in Mail In Rebates to bring the price down to $932. Don't forget that you will have to pay shipping. But ordering it all at one time from one company (such as newegg.com) will combine shipping costs and save money.
So, this good enough for you?

I didn't include an ethernet card as I have no idea what you currently have for the internet access. So that will add a few bucks to the cost. If you can run a CAT5 cable to your access point it will be faster connection and less expensive.


Nice list. Don't need an ethernet card as it should be on the MOBO anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:31 pm 
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Your right about the ethernet. I should've said wireless access card. Like the one he had listed in the op.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:29 pm 
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Sorry. I should've mentioned I wanted a Win7 OS. This also might seem noobish, but what have I got to lose! I would like to play games like CoD, MC, and Skyrim with a frames about in the 60 range and dropping no less than 30.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:28 pm 
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Nice job, Dedgar! For less than $1000, you squeezed everything into that rig (did I see a kitchen sink listed, too? :)).

Personally, I would opt for the FX 6300 - it's a lower clock speed, but I think the extra cores will help out more in everyday use.

ssbb -

In your price range, that's probably the best rig you could build. minimum of 30 fps should be no problem; on medium (maybe some high settings), you should also get 60 fps. If you already have some of the components (like keyboard and monitor), apply that money towards a better GPU.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:44 pm 
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Thanks Dedgar! Do you have a better recommendation for a GPU?


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
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ssbb wrote:
Thanks Dedgar! Do you have a better recommendation for a GPU?



Of course that will incur a higher cost but pick up a 7870 made by anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Building my first PC. Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:36 am 
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dedgar wrote:
ssbb wrote:
Thanks Dedgar! Do you have a better recommendation for a GPU?



Of course that will incur a higher cost but pick up a 7870 made by anyone.

Would a 7870 card be compatible with all the parts mentioned? Would you guys think a case fan would be necessary?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:00 pm 
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Case fans are releatively inexpensive, and if you have a place to mount one, The you can get a good for about $16 or less ( 120mm ). If you don't have an intake fan, then it would probably be a good idea. The card should be fine. The only issues with Video cards are having a proper Power supply.


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ssbb wrote:
Would a 7870 card be compatible with all the parts mentioned?


Yes, I don't know of any video card that would not be compatible.
Except those that use a different interface. Such as AGP and older cards. Modern video cards for general use, which includes gaming, are interchangeable. It doesn't matter if the card has an Nvidia gpu or one made by AMD.
As long as it fits the slot on the motherboard properly and you can provide it with the power it needs through the proper connections from the power supply, then you can use the card.


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