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 Post subject: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:53 am 
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Hi all!

About 10 years ago I snagged a Westinghouse 37" LCD monitor (no tuner) from Best Buy as an open box buy at a price I couldn't resist.

It has served me very well and given a little 'Wow' factor to my rig.

Alas, it is time to retire the panel as it's colors are starting to green out and there is noticeable flicker in the display. I was able to extend the life a bit using display calibration software but even that isn't cutting it anymore.

So I'm here to ask advice on a replacement.

I have a budget of ~$900.00
It doesn't have to be the same size, but I don't want to drop down to a sub 24"
I primarily develop on it - web and VB/C# .net
I do play a decent amount of games - Batman AA/AC, Crysis, Borderlands 2, etc etc
I might be interested in a two panel setup, depending on the size of the panels - and the final cost.

I've been running 1920x1080 since I got the Westinghouse (the max it would display) and have been happy with that.

I'd prefer shopping only at NewEgg as I have a credit with them to use up soon.

I was looking at the BOTB monitors, the Dell looks great, but is a little more than i wanted to spend. The Asus has been discontinued at NewEgg.

My Rig:
Thermaltake Level 10GT
Asus P8Z77-V Pro
i7 3770K @ 4.2, Corsair H100 cooler
16 GB G.Skill DDR3 1600
MSI GTX 670 OC
GTX 470 (Physx - but not sure if it's going to stay in this rig)
Corsair GOLD 850W PSU
2 x 256 GB OCZ Vector SSD
2 x 1TB WD SATA II
Creative Recon3D

Any ideas / suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:23 am 
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I hold Dell monitors to high regard, because not only do they use really good panels (they're from LG, they supply Apple's monitors if that's an indication of anything), but I like their utilitarian design that doesn't try to be flashy. HP is also good, but I'm not sure who supplies their panels (probably LG or Samsung).

If it's still around and you don't care about color accuracy (that much), I highly recommend the U2412M. You get all the nice ergonomic features and a USB hub to boot. Sad thing is if you were in the market a few weeks ago, they had a deal with two of them plus a dual monitor stand for $550 or so. But with your budget, you could go for the 27" version (it's around $600) and still get a U2412M, or if you really want to, get 3 U2412Ms.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:52 am 
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Is this the 27" you were referring to?

Do you know what the side bezel width is on the U2412M? I was looking through the data on it and didn't see it listed, nor in the first couple pages of the reviews.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:12 am 
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I believe it's within 15mm. If you're looking for a really wide screen for gaming, you might want to look at the 21:9 aspect ratio monitors. You'll just have to say goodbye to maximizing anything. Otherwise if you're looking for smaller bezels, they're really hard to find these days. I think the only recent one in recent memory is the AOC i2367Fh. There are better alternatives like LG's IPS7, but many of these are discontinued.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:08 am 
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Thanks again! That gives me some good info to work with.

Much appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:50 am 
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Out of curiosity - would you not recommend using a "tv" as a monitor? For example - this one, or this

If not, why?

I know I'd be limited to 1920 x 1800 max res, which I think I'd be fine with.

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:15 am 
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If you have the space then sure. However, the 120Hz or higher ones will more than likely have significant input lag.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:27 am 
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OK, so I'd be better off with a 60Hz one instead? I figured a 120Hz would be better.


Space is definitely not an issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:04 am 
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Do some research is all I can say! And actually, even 60Hz TVs can have significant input lag because TVs spend more time processing the image. However, in my experience, even though my TV clearly has more input lag than my monitor, it doesn't bother me. So if you're really anal about this sort of thing, avoid TVs altogether.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:46 am 
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Thanks.

I've been looking around on newegg at the various reviews and googling for reviews on items that people are using in my setup. Getting some good info, but still not confident enough to pull the trigger on anything yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:33 am 
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Unless you're playing super-twitchy games I doubt you'll notice the input lag. I've owned three Dell Ultrasharps (just purchased a U3011) and I've been extremely happy with their performance. Pick up the U3011 from Amazon, then call Dell to have the warranty put in your name.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:25 pm 
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Here's another good monitor that uses S-IPS and that has LED backlighting... This seems to be one of the more talked about ones out there:

HP ZR2440w Black and Brushed Aluminum 24" 6ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED-Backlit IPS LCD Monitor 50 to 350 nits cd/m2 1000:1 (static) / 2000000:1 (dynamic)

EDIT: Here's a 27" version of that same monitor, which could be better for you:

HP Smartbuy ZR2740w Black and Brushed Aluminum 27" 12 ms (GTG) WQHD IPS Panel Height & Pivot Adjustable Widescreen LED-Backlit LCD Monitor 380 cd/m2 1000:1

The only reason I'd go with the HP ZR2740w over the Dell U2412/2413 is because of the extra connectivity, assuming you'll be wanting to use HDMI. Other than that, they're pretty much the same monitor, both use the same IPS panel, and I'm not sure if I've seen them side by side, but I'll have to assume the PQ is pretty much identical, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitor Upgrade
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:08 am 
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Thanks guys - some more good info to research!


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