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 Post subject: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:35 am 
Coppermine
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While I typically would do a clean install rather than an upgrade, my current desktop is a new build - and will be about a month old at the time I install Windows 8. Would it still be better to do a clean install?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:39 am 
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If the Windows 8 upgrade process is anything to go by, it gives you a choice of keeping everything, keeping just your files, or keep nothing (which I'm guessing is a clean install)

But if you want to minimize errors, do a clean install.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:54 am 
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It looks like the only way to use the Windows 7 type of backup and restore (as in creating a system image) is to go the upgrade route rather than the clean install route. Alternatively using Acronis, Norton, or some other software. Suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:24 am 
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Save all your data on a secondary or external hdd or a separate partition. Clean install and then port it all over. Is this what you're attempting? I can't pick it up from your first post. It works with both 7 and 8.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:38 am 
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From what I've read, if you do an upgrade then the Windows 7 Backup and Restore function will be saved, though somewhat hidden. If you do a clean install of Windows 8, it no longer will have the Backup and Restore function in the same fashion. It will have the ability to backup the libraries, but it won't do a system image. I'm interested in being able to still have the system image functionality.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 am 
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Apparently you can still do it with http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/88 ... s-8-a.html and http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/89 ... s-8-a.html


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:32 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:


Both of those links refer to the Windows 7 File Recovery icon - they are assuming you do an upgrade install rather than a clean install.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:33 pm 
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I think Microsoft just renamed it, as I went the upgrade path and removed all the Windows 7 files, did this, and it worked just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:32 pm 
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My understanding is it only works if you go the upgrade route, as you did. If you do a clean install, you get a different version of backup which only backs up files in the Library and does not do a system image.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:17 pm 
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The second link I provided doesn't say such a requirement exists. And other places I've looked at also don't say that you needed to upgrade, it's just that it was renamed to Windows 7 File Recovery.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:14 am 
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The second link also contains a reference to the Windows 7 File Recovery file.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:23 am 
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Stephen wrote:
The second link also contains a reference to the Windows 7 File Recovery file.

Again.

In Microsoft's infinite wisdom the part that handles System Image was renamed to the confusing "Windows 7 File Recovery". And it may just be named that because Windows 8's backup method is different than Windows 7's, and they kept both rather than alienate the old method completely.

If you don't want to risk believing me or anyone else, just clean install Windows 7 and upgrade from there.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:20 pm 
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This has officially become a ratznest. Everyone please bail...save your sanity, save your self!


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:05 pm 
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I understand that Windows 8 does a backup. My concern is whether or not it does a full system image. I have read on a number of posts in a number of forums that you can no longer create full system images with Windows 8 - instead it backs up only "files in your libraries, files on your desktop, your contacts, and your browser favorites".


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:48 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:11 pm 
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Did you even look at the second tutorial? It shows you how to create a system image. A complete system image.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:04 am 
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http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... -whole-pc/

There.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 clean install or upgrade?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:00 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/using-windows-8s-hidden-backup-to-clone-and-recover-your-whole-pc/

There.


Thank you. I checked some of the posts I read earlier, and it appears they were referring to the RC, not the final. Either it was changed for the final or they were wrong. In any event, thanks!


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