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 Post subject: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:00 am 
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I am building a new computer, and I was wondering if these hardware are compatible with each other.

The build, will it work? Will it overheat? Do I need to upgrade?
Can I replace hardware that would be cheaper and have the same Speed?

I have keyboards, mice, cords, monitors, speakers, etc, etc..

All these Hardware can be seen on Amazon

MotherBoard---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS Premium Motherboard DDR3 1600 Intel - LGA 1155 Motherboard (P8Z77-V PREMIUM)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085JFM1U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Ram-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ32GX3M4X1600C10)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0068ZWZY0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

HardDrive-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Internal Desktop Hard Drive - WD2002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CSIG1G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

VideoCard---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVGA GeForce GTX690 4096MB GDDR5 512bit, Dual GPU, 2xDVI-I,DVI-D,mDisplayPort, Quad SLI Ready Graphics Card Graphics Cards 04G-P4-2690-KR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ZRO3U4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

SoundCard-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS PCI-Express x1 Sound Card XONAR ESSENCE STX/90-YAA0C0-0UAN00Z
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OV789U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

PowerSupply---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold (SPG) 1200 Watts Modular Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O8J11Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Processor-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 - BX80619I73930K
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00603QXPM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Computer Case----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nzxt Technologies Phantom with Green Trim (Green LED) Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Phan-002Gr (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WO17UC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

CD Reader-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner with Disc Encryption, Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZMG55I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Everything will work together buys it's hard to recommend parts for upgrading you old rig since you didn't list it's specs. Your build is very high end so you might not need the 690 or 3930k depending on what your going to be doing with your computer. I'd suggest a 3770k for everyday gaming and multitasking and it's half the price here's the link http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3770K-Qu ... ords=3770k


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:53 pm 
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First off, NOT everything will work together:
Your motherboard is socket 1155; your CPU is socket 2011 so they are incompatible. You have to change the mobo, or the CPU.

Second, I don't think the 3930 comes with a CPU cooler, so if you end up sticking with the CPU you'll have to buy a cooler for it.

Third, 32GB is a massive amount of RAM - do you need it or are you doing it for bragging rights? I tell most people 16GB is excessive (I say 8GB should be enough). Unless you have money falling out of your pockets, or you are using an application that requires enormous amounts of RAM, you should halve your RAM.

Fourth, no SSD? I'm just eye-balling your build and it's at least $2000-2500. If you're going balls-to-the-wall in your build, you should get an SSD. I would recommend 256GB; Samsung and OCZ are good brands.

Fifth, nice case. I like it.

Sixth, the PSU is excessive too. You can drop down to the 1000W version and still have plenty of headroom. Honestly, a good 800-900W PSU should be more than adequate. A few years ago, I would have said a 1200W PSU would be an investment in the future when bigger and better components come out; but, in the last several years there has been a concerted effort to reduce power consumption, so computer parts in the future will probably be faster/better, but requiring less power.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:24 pm 
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A couple of notes to add, on top of what btdog said.

What's the primary purpose of this computer? The computer looks like something meant for development work or folding, taking to account of all the hardware. If it's made for media, then you don't need a high powered GPU, as most programs aren't GPU accelerated. And even if they are, it's only to help with certain effects. Beyond that, the only "high performance" program you'll be running is gaming... which I'm going to assume this is the primary purpose of the computer (since most people come here with that purpose).

So with that in mind, let's nitpick some more.

  • Games aren't CPU heavy. You can still play essentially all games on max settings with a Core i3 processor. But for the sake of getting the most bang for the buck, Core i5 is the sweet spot for now and later.
  • If you're not pushing anything higher than 1920x1200 resolution, a high-end dual GPU setup is a waste of money. Even a GTX 670 can run the most taxing games on maximum settings at 1920x1200 at smooth frame rates most of the time. Sure, you could buy the GTX 690 now as sort of "futureproofing", but if you look at the trends of dual GPUs versus next gen single GPUs, you can basically get 75%-80% of the performance of a dual GPU setup today in the next generation of single GPU cards, at half the cost.

    The only times when I find dual-GPU setups acceptable are: if a mid-range GPU can outpace a high-end GPU and still cost lower; or you're pushing 2560x1440 or higher.

    But then I'm reminded of a saying about dual-GPU setups. You can get next gen performance today, but with next gen, you get next gen performance and next gen features.
  • Practically all games (and in fact, many applications that are normally installed) are 32-bit executables. By default on Windows x64 editions, 32-bit programs have a maximum limit of 2GB of RAM they can use. If the program hits this 2GB limit, the program crashes because it ran out of memory. Thus, if you're running a game, the most amount of RAM you can expect to be used is 2GB. With this in mind, you can get away with even 4GB and still have a responsive system. Though I recommend 8GB, you can keep the page file to a minimum this way.

    Now if you have a problem with leaving programs open all the time, then I suppose having more RAM wouldn't hurt.

    Also avoid flashy looking RAM and high speed RAM if the cost is rather high. Heat sinks/spreaders are not necessary on RAM and high speed RAM doesn't improve the performance of most applications you can expect to run. That doesn't mean, though, that high speed RAM won't improve performance on anything. But the application list where RAM speed = performance is so miniscule, it's just not worth the extra cost. Well, to that effect, DDR3-1600 is the most I would recommend.
  • In regards to the power supply, if you get a mid-high range card, start with 550W or so. A higher end card like a GTX 670/Radeon HD7950, start at 650W. Dual GPUs, start at 750W.

    Computers actually use a lot less power than people tend to believe (so I think). My current rig, which has a Core i5-2500 and two GTX 560 Ti's on a game takes about 350W. On idle it sits around 100W. The idea here is that you want your PSU to be able to supply roughly 200% of the power your computer under load is expected to consume. PSUs are most efficient at about 50% load, and you want it to be efficient when you're telling it to work.


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:37 pm 
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Sorry, I forgot to say that I am NOT a heavy gamer. Im a 3d artist. I make simulations, and I also have 6+ programs up most of the time. Although, I DO play games from time to time. Thanks for the feedback on the build, it really helped. So what do you think I should change? the motherboard or the CPU


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:57 pm 
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OK, so update on the build. Sorry, I forgot to mention that the build will be used for multimedia purposes. However, I will still be gaming on this computer. Things I have changed Are highlighted in RED

I usually have 6+ programs running at the same time while I am working, and while I'm messing with video, it uses a lot of RAM. But, quick question, while I am simulating, rendering, or baking, Do you know what kind of power it uses? I want to be able to work while my computer is doing these things. The current computer I have chokes while I am doing this.

MotherBoard---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS Rampage IV Formula LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006Q4MBZQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Ram-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ32GX3M4X1600C10)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0068ZWZY0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

HardDrive-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Internal Desktop Hard Drive - WD2002FAEXhttp://www.maximumpc.com/foru ... &t=153224#
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CSIG1G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

VideoCard---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVGA GeForce GTX690 4096MB GDDR5 512bit, Dual GPU, 2xDVI-I,DVI-D,mDisplayPort, Quad SLI Ready Graphics Card Graphics Cards 04G-P4-2690-KR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ZRO3U4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

SoundCard-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS PCI-Express x1 Sound Card XONAR ESSENCE STX/90-YAA0C0-0UAN00Z
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OV789U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

PowerSupply---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold (SPG) 1200 Watts Modular Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O8J11Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Processor-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 - BX80619I73930K
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00603QXPM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Computer Case----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nzxt Technologies Phantom with Green Trim (Green LED) Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Phan-002Gr (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WO17UC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

CD Reader-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner with Disc Encryption, Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZMG55I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

SSDCard=-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crucial 128 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT128M4SSD2
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT256M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JL2A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1350881657&sr=1-1&keywords=ssd+computer+card


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 Post subject: Re: Help, With New Computer Build
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:02 pm 
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I usually have 6+ programs running at the same time while I am working, and while I'm messing with video, it uses a lot of RAM. But, quick question, while I am simulating, rendering, or baking, Do you know what kind of power it uses? I want to be able to work while my computer is doing these things. The current computer I have chokes while I am doing this.

Your change in motherboard looks good; and you've added a 256GB SSD (not 128GB like your description) and that's good too.

I don't know what 6 programs you have running...and I don't know from what computer you are coming. But even if they are all CPU/GPU intensive programs I'm sure you will still see a marked improvement in your computer's performance. Will it always be buttery smooth? I don't know - maybe...? Personally, I've always said Intel CPUs have a "stuttering" problem when new applications are launched, but it's usually short lived. You should see some great performance but don't expect miracles.

Bottom line: if your old computer is 3+ years old, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Enjoy!


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