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 Post subject: Ubee meets Netgear repeater.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:05 pm 
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My friend has a "ubee" modem/router from his isp. The router is on the far end of his house. The router also has to deal with a concrete wall between it and the rest of the house. So needless to say it has very poor range in the house. On the far end of the house there is no signal at all. He wants to use a netgear wndr3700 router as a repeater because it states that it has a repeater mode. He wants me to set it up for him because he knows even less than I know, which is not a lot. I need to know how to set up both of the routers to increase range. There is no way to get a wire between the router and the repeater. What should the settings on the Ubee and the Netgear be? I really don't want to spend a lot of time with trial and error. I want to have the netgear appear as the only access to the network if that is possible and a good idea. Like I said I don't know a lot about networking so any help would be appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Ubee meets Netgear repeater.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:37 pm 
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Hmm, I wonder whether using a repeater would even work. When someone tells me then don't even get a signal, that's a problem. As they say, nothing times something is still nothing. IOW, you can't repeat a signal you can't even reach. I realize you're hoping that somewhere in the "midlands" lies a sweet spot, but that's iffy, or may still be very weak, esp. w/ the kind of environment you've described. Has he considered using powerline or MoCA as the bridging mechanism? And if he still needs wireless, use a wireless router/AP at the other end of the powerline/MoCA bridge.

[primary router]<-- wire -->[powerline adapter #1]<-- interior power lines -->[powerline adapter #2]<-- wire -->[wireless router/AP]

But let's put that aside for the moment. After looking at the WNDR3700 manual, it appears to me it uses WDS bridging as its repeating mechanism. That’s another problem. WDS is not a wifi-certified protocol, so implementations vary, and thus incompatibilities are all too common. For all intents and purposes, it's likely only to work between the same manufacturer's products (sometimes it doesn't even work across different product lines from the same manufacturer). That's one of those nasty little details the manufacturer leaves out of their documentation (no one likes to admit they're not using industry standards). You could spend endless hours in frustration getting this to work. It may even appear to work, but work only intermittently, or fail later. Just not a pretty picture UNLESS they are the same device, and thus have the same implementation.

What you might need to do at that point is consider installing dd-wrt (third party firmware), as long as the WNDR3700 is v1 or v2. Then configure the router as a "repeater bridge". That's a universal repeater. It will work w/ ANY wireless router, including the Ubee.

http://www.dd-wrt.com

And configuring dd-wrt as a "repeater bridge" is yet another discussion. Not the hardest thing in the world, but given you need to install dd-wrt itself, and configure it for "repeater bridge", it's non-trivial. That's another reason it may be easier to use powerline/MoCA. Those are pretty much plug-n-play solutions.


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