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aureliusss
 Post subject: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:16 pm 
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Hey folks, just wondering if it is worth getting diskeeper pro for my windows 7 x64 Ultimate computer. Or do the internal tools that come with the windows 7 simply make the cost for diskeeper a waste of money? Just asking ... )))
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Nastyman
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:12 pm 
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Hey folks, just wondering if it is worth getting diskeeper pro for my windows 7 x64 Ultimate computer


In a word...nope, not worth it in my humble opinion.

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Gutter96
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:45 am 
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Windows 7 defragments itself while idling. So no, it's not worth it. :D
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aureliusss
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:00 pm 
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Thanx for the advice. ))
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LatiosXT
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:59 pm 
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Plus the fact that on an modern NTFS partition, you can fragment the drive to about 40% before you start having a noticeable performance hit.

Someone did this, I forget who. Either way, it was probably trying to point out that you shouldn't be freaking out over fragmentation under 10%.
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kleinkinstein
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:49 pm 
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Either Auslogics or Defraggler will keep your bytes tidy, in-order and optimized. And you'll notice a difference over the barely effective w7 app.
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LatiosXT
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:47 pm 
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kleinkinstein wrote:
Either Auslogics or Defraggler will keep your bytes tidy, in-order and optimized. And you'll notice a difference over the barely effective w7 app.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the_di ... difference

MaximumPC says otherwise, using Windows Vista. Well, regarding the "noticing the difference".

I'm also suspect about Auslogics anyway. I used to use them, but I did a recursive run, and it said I still needed defragging.
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kleinkinstein
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:32 am 
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Three things?
1. Did I read you right...you're referencing Vista? Meh! C'mon you know better. :)
2. MaxPC is good but not great. They are helpful but hardly definitive on much of anything anymore.
3. Yeah, recursive runs can be tricky with any app, just stick to one and be done.
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LatiosXT
 Post subject: Re: Diskeeper vs windows 7
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:44 am 
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What I'm saying is that I believe fragmentation is not much of an issue anymore as it was in the past, and that currently, NTFS handles fragmentation so much better than in the past that you need "severe" fragmentation before you start seeing a noticeable system performance hit. Not to mention things like NCQ make the problem less of an issue.

If you want to show me otherwise, by all means. But the background defragging in Windows does the job just fine in my experience. And in fact, since I don't see any perceived performance degradation, it's perfect. I don't have to do anything (and a system that maintains itself is a perfect system).

Also obligatory rant regarding Vista...
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I like how people summarily continue to slam Windows Vista as being an unstable, unusable PoS, ignoring the fact that Windows Me existed, Windows 2000 had a rocky start in the beginning, and Windows XP wasn't any better until SP1 was released. In fact, Microsoft's only less-than-rocky release would probably be Windows 7 (and Windows 98, but I was too young to care), which is just Vista with UI changes. And really, Vista SP2 is a viable operating system alongside Windows 7, and might as well be Windows 7 without the GUI changes.

And I used Windows Vista as my main operating system from November 2007 until Windows 7 RTM was available through academic channels (about mid 2009). Never really had a problem with it. If anything, after some insight on OS's in general, Vista revealed that a lot of Windows programmers were, for lack of a better word, idiots.
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