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 Post subject: Wireless keyboard/mouse for HTPC gaming?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:45 pm 
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Can anyone recommend a solid wireless keyboard and mouse for gaming on a HTPC system?

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Wireless gaming keyboard and wireless gaming mice are oxymorons.


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Logitech MX 5500 was recommended elsewhere. I use the Logitech K800 as my keyboard. Great for just about everything. As for mice, either the Logitech g700, Razer Mamba or the R.A.T 9.

I play my games from my main pc over Wireless-N, and I'm using a Wireless keyboard and mouse solution as well. Problem?


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Logitech MX 5500 was recommended elsewhere. I use the Logitech K800 as my keyboard. Great for just about everything. As for mice, either the Logitech g700, Razer Mamba or the R.A.T 9.

I play my games from my main pc over Wireless-N, and I'm using a Wireless keyboard and mouse solution as well. Problem?


You must not play competitively... way too much lag with wireless mice and keyboards. Or you must play toy games like bf3 and CoD. I guess it doesn't matter with those games.


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You must not play competitively... way too much lag with wireless mice and keyboards. Or you must play toy games like bf3 and CoD. I guess it doesn't matter with those games.


And you do? Also have you ever used a wireless mouse?

I do play some comp TF2 from time to time. But with life and everything it's hard to maintain a schedule.


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You must not play competitively... way too much lag with wireless mice and keyboards. Or you must play toy games like bf3 and CoD. I guess it doesn't matter with those games.

lolwut. "I'm going to be useless here and make snide remarks about OP's question". So instead, I'm just going to call shenanigans and ask for some hard evidence that going wireless contributes to a significant amount of lag.


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You must not play competitively... way too much lag with wireless mice and keyboards. Or you must play toy games like bf3 and CoD. I guess it doesn't matter with those games.

lolwut. "I'm going to be useless here and make snide remarks about OP's question". So instead, I'm just going to call shenanigans and ask for some hard evidence that going wireless contributes to a significant amount of lag.



Play CSS in an ESEA league and you will be able to tell just how much of a difference the right mouse makes. Maybe it isn't the wireless itself but wireless mice in general are bad because they use terrible components. Hell half the wired mice use terrible components. First rule of thumb for gaming mice is that all laser mice are bad because they all use 2 lasers and then calculate the movement which isn't 100 accurate. They also have less predictable acceleration and the tracking is generally really poor unless you spend a lot of time finding a good surface. If you want a good mouse you want to stick with optical or infrared (like the deathadder). But I have done a fair amount of gaming on the go with wireless mice and they are pretty shitty and there is definitely lag if you are coming from a quality mouse.

So my recommendations for gaming mice are Zowie AM, Deathadder, g400 v2 (removed prediction but I don't think it is an official rename just the newer production)

But yeah they aren't snide remarks they are from thousands of hours of experience. You also shouldn't use a DPI over 1000 in source games since it adds negative acceleration, and windows cursor speed should be at notch 6 in the settings.


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I never knew that n0b0dykn0ws was a professional sponsored competitive player in electronic sports who plays on his couch. Did you?

The whole point of recommendations is to give advice on an item that the user can relate to and use. It's not use what I use cuz it's what I like.


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Dan... that would be classified as trolling... :roll:


And there have been great wireless gaming input devices for the last decade... So don't get your panties in a twist.


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My goal would be to play a handful of games in the living room on my 50" plasma.

Mainly games like Left4Dead 2, and GTA IV.

I like to play for fun. That's it.

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why not play with a controller?


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 Post subject: Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse for HTPC gaming?
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I thought about that, but I never had much with a gamepad for FPS games. GTA IV. There are also older games I would play, which don't support gamepads.

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 Post subject: Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse for HTPC gaming?
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In that case. Just get whatever looks like it will be most comfortable. So claw grip or palm grip?

A controller wtf is that?

And no I wasn't trolling I was being serious about mice, most of you just get whatever mouse and use any old mousepad or none at all... it must be Amateur hour. And please enlighten me on these great wireless gaming mice, and like I said it can't have: prediction, acceleration, or poor tracking/a laser.


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 Post subject: Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse for HTPC gaming?
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Why should I? You just gonna troll the fuck out of us ITT. Did you forget to read the damn title of the thread? "HTPC gaming?". Not exactly MLG league play here...

And who gives a fuck if you play competitions... Get off your high horse. Take your shit else where. And yes, I play competitively as well, but I don't fucking exactly tout this at every corner.

honestly, it doesn't fucking matter what input devices you use, I can school tools with a crappy keyboard and mouse any day of the week. Don't make me repost my shits again about the correlation and connections between your occipital, parietal, temporal and frontal lobe; along with biochemistry and neurology.


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 Post subject: Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse for HTPC gaming?
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Why should I? You just gonna troll the fuck out of us ITT. Did you forget to read the damn title of the thread? "HTPC gaming?". Not exactly MLG league play here...

And who gives a fuck if you play competitions... Get off your high horse. Take your shit else where. And yes, I play competitively as well, but I don't fucking exactly tout this at every corner.

honestly, it doesn't fucking matter what input devices you use, I can school tools with a crappy keyboard and mouse any day of the week. Don't make me repost my shits again about the correlation and connections between your occipital, parietal, temporal and frontal lobe; along with biochemistry and neurology.


Yes you can school shitty players, but you would get destroyed by good players using good equipment. And I don't tout it everywhere only when it is relevant and people say that I don't know what I am talking about, when I do. But anyway like I said, OP do you use claw grip or palm grip on your mice? And back to the point he doesn't play competitively, so he doesn't really need an overpriced "wireless gaming mouse" he would be fine with logitech wireless stuff that all use the same receiver now.

Some links:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards ... board-k800
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards ... vices/7990
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards ... 0-keyboard
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-poin ... e-mouse-mx
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-poin ... mouse-m705

All of those use the unifying receivers so if you lose a receiver you can get a new one fairly easily (or possibly use the other devices receiver for both?)
I don't think I have ever seen a wireless gaming keyboard though...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:13 pm 
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No, I still "destroy" gamers who have high end input devices. Its not the matter about what computer you use, its how you use it. While I maybe a great player, most games I play are still team based so its really dependent on how others work well with me to net my effectiveness in competitions.

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And I don't tout it everywhere only when it is relevant and people say that I don't know what I am talking about, when I do.

This thread was was not relevant from the get go... OP wanted a decent wireless setup to play some casual games. You just pushed the issue and basically trolled to get the viewpoint that your a "pro/dedicated gamer who knows his stuff..."


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JBaz wrote:
No, I still "destroy" gamers who have high end input devices. Its not the matter about what computer you use, its how you use it. While I maybe a great player, most games I play are still team based so its really dependent on how others work well with me to net my effectiveness in competitions.

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And I don't tout it everywhere only when it is relevant and people say that I don't know what I am talking about, when I do.

This thread was was not relevant from the get go... OP wanted a decent wireless setup to play some casual games. You just pushed the issue and basically trolled to get the viewpoint that your a "pro/dedicated gamer who knows his stuff..."



Incorrect I stated my opinion that there are no such things as wireless GAMING mice and keyboards. I then backed that up with why I thought that and instead suggested either getting wired if he was actually playing competitively or to just get regular shit that isn't extra for the "gaming" label; also I added that I play in leagues because someone said I didn't know what I was talking about. And yes I can destroy noobs with good equipment too, now this time actually read what I say PRO PLAYERS with the BEST GEAR have an advantage over PRO PLAYERS with shitty gear, therefore you with shitty gear will lose to good players with better gear. Because like I said it is about consistency and laser mice are not consistent. And if you "destroy" everyone that you play then you need to find new competition, you don't get better by playing people far inferior to you.

But anyway back to the point of why I said they were oxymorons, because they use the same lasers as all the other wireless mice so you are paying for the name and the extra DPI that you shouldn't be using anyway.


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Incorrect I stated my opinion that there are no such things as wireless GAMING mice and keyboards.

He didn't ask about "wireless gaming mice and keyboards". Read OP again. All he asked was for recommendations on products for his home use, not how the juxtaposition of "gaming" & "wireless" in the same sentence is an "oxymoron" or how "professional" gamer's play games...
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Can anyone recommend a solid wireless keyboard and mouse for gaming on a HTPC system?

He asked what you were thinking... decent wireless devices that would be decent for gaming...


Thank you for your input though, now troll some place else.


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Incorrect I stated my opinion that there are no such things as wireless GAMING mice and keyboards.

He didn't ask about "wireless gaming mice and keyboards". Read OP again. All he asked was for recommendations on products for his home use, not how the juxtaposition of "gaming" & "wireless" in the same sentence is an "oxymoron" or how "professional" gamer's play games...
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Can anyone recommend a solid wireless keyboard and mouse for gaming on a HTPC system?

He asked what you were thinking... decent wireless devices that would be decent for gaming...


Thank you for your input though, now troll some place else.


OK well you just stay here and keep not giving any ideas just keep telling me that I am on a high horse for telling it like it is... oh wait he should get a controller RIGHT. So yes I'll leave despite my posts actually contributing to the discussion while yours are completely off topic and just trying to discredit my opinion without actually providing your own. If you think about it your recommendation is no where near what OP wanted so maybe you should read it again.


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HTPC gaming... on the couch... controller comes to mind. But OP shot it down since he gave us a few games that he listed, some of which wouldn't work.

Now go have your self a fucking pie, or something. And besides, Airheadq's post recommended some good stuff already of which you trolled him. So now, I'm counter-trolling you for being a fucking toolbag.


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