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Its a fake 600 series. Nothing more than a revamped 500 series chips still on the 40nm fabrication. All they did was up the core and shader speed.

25% market share is "shitty small" compared to the 16% held by the "king in the GPU world"?

Yeah... I didn't make myself clear on that one... Derp. lol

I meant in retrospect of entry level, mid range and high end gaming cards, not integrated solutions (I consider some low end entry level discrete cards in this category) of which most of the market is saturated with. Nvidia basically stopped focusing on integrated solutions since they find it hard to compete against Intel and just stuck with their niche market segment of gaming, professional and GPGPU cards. And I was thinking in terms of over the last 3 years as AMD have been steadily taking market share in those arena's from nvidia, mostly in the entry and mid range.

Plus, AMD's profit margins on their products aren't nearly as good as nvidia's counterparts. I don't want to sound like a fan boy because I do own both AMD and nvidia cards, but out of the two and price/performance/features were the same or similar, I'd pick nvidia... for CUDA. Even AMD's new 7k series isn't very good with OpenCL of what I've heard, but I donno if there's truth to this or not.

AMD had those huge layoffs what 12-18 months ago? Intel and nvidia are still hiring and aren't hurting for money.



I meant that as "is still considered" king.. blah blah blah.

Even then, nvidia cards are vastly more superior with GPGPU calculations and they just dominate the pro market even though they are "technically" inferior to the more modern cards. You also don't have to hold a high % of the market share to be considered the leader in your industry. Case in point... Apple. yes yes... bad bad bad bad bad... booooooooooooo

Looks like the GTX 680s are out according to the listing on Newegg...but it consistently keeps selling out, as expected right during launch. When you do guys feel would be the best time to pull the trigger on one of these? I was thinking that late April/early May would be best so the hype can die down a little bit, and there would most likely be a bigger supply. However, would this also mean more high-end cards by that time?

Its only a pre-order. They won't ship till April 15th. PNY still allows for pre-orders on their website the last time I checked, but doesn't give a confirmation of ship date or anything. Tigerdirect had only Gigabyte's for pre-order yesterday; not sure if they still have it. And newegg's site was flooded; all the EVGA's were out of stock even when they sent the email blast two days ago.

And don't expect the hype to die down in april/may time frame, people will still be snatching these up. Once nvidia gets their fabrication down and get more yeilds; supply should be better once the 600's get more main stream. But again, the chips are being used on their new Geforce, Quadro and Telsa lines and if they run into production issues again, it could derail shipments.

With such a late announcement and building up hype/suspense about kepler, I just hope they have enough supply by the time I finally build my new system in early summer.

You sure? I mean, it seems like EVGA's got them out and rolling on Newegg...so I really can't be so sure if they were only preorders or not.
Although if it is really going to be released later on, then that'll definitely give me time to hopefully get a refund in the mail from Uncle Sam to pay for this bad boy.
Still kinda torn between the GTX 680 and HD 7970 at this point, tho... Still need some convincing to get myself off the fence about the whole thing.

yup, pretty sure, half of my gaming clan jumped on it like hot cakes. Newegg's EVGA cards went out on the morning of the email blast. I'm still on the fence about upgrading; might just liquid cool my setup for uber cheap once people start selling water blocks for crazy low prices on my 570's.

As you can see, it's pretty much a dead heat between the 7970 and the current 680 in terms of performance according to HW Compare's website. Although I'm not sure if this would be as good of a comparison site as Tom's Hardware, tho:

http://www.hwcompare.com/12351/geforce- ... n-hd-7970/

Although at least with the 680, the power consumption is actually lower, which surprised me, considering how much more power the GTX 580 used when compared to their AMD counterparts at the time. Doesn't look like I'll have to upgrade my PSU after all, because the wattage isn't much more than the HD 5850, either, since I went and looked at that.

perhaps you should break loose from the theoretical web sites and look at some real comparisons. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/22/nvidia_kepler_gpu_geforce_gtx_680_video_card_review even your link shows the nvidia outperforming the amd in everything. do not see where you get "dead heat" from.

yeah hwcompare is a worthless site.

my buddy ordered his friday from newegg

Now all we need to know is when we can expect the demand to die down a tad so we have some adequate supplies of this thing! Getting tired of going onto Newegg when it is in stock, only to be bumped back out of the ordering process because they sold out right at the moment you place your order. Which can be quite annoying, no doubt. Not saying I did that myself, but a lot of people at the EVGA forums seemed to complain about having this happen to them.