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Perhaps the decision had something to do with the fact that they used an SSD RAID?

You tell 'em Klein.

We needed that PCI bandwidth for the video cards.

Failure? Are you smoking crack?

Does the MPC crew have one of these SSDs sitting around? I'd like to see benchmarks to compare the DM2K11 as-printed with the SSD over GPU config...

I don't think gaming would improve (once it's loaded, what else is HDD speed needed for?), but stuff like video encoding might benefit from the r/w speeds over processing power.

I'm curios about using RAID0 with SSD's. Doesn't this disable TRIM support?

The thread's about possiblle blunders with the Dream Machine and SSD's. Not really a hijack.

The thread title is:

BIG Dream Machine 2K11 blunder!

Even though Blunder is singular I think SleepyCatChris has a valid question. So let him ask the question. Additionally SleepyCatChris is a new member and we treat new members nicely.

Additionally SleepyCatChris if your question goes unanswered here feel free to start a new thread with the question.

Thank You
Ron

You're like a crazy hobo on a subway.

"Get outta my thread! Get outta my thread!!"

Like that hobo on the subway who stabbed a woman with a pen because she told him to stop and
he can't smoke his blunt in peace?
About 10 or so years ago I would drool over every time I see a DM, now it's just meh. What happened?!

Sheez...at some times you just gotta let people talk to dig their own holes. Bandwidth is a huge concern, and if you hog it with PCIe SSD traffic there's bound to be an issue with other items in those slots. I've used the PCIe OCZ's in the past (V1 and 2), and while I've gotten great drive benches; they rapped my other's...steal from Peter to pay Paul.

About TRIM, I've been pretty much backing that thing as old hat. A good controller will not need trim because it just doesn't toss data around where ever it fits. Is it useful? Probably (and I've yet to see proof myself). Is it needed? Not at all. When we get into better controllers, TRIM does in fact get in the same category of co-processors on processors that just couldn't do it on their own. The V1 Revo didn't have it, and it smoked. V2 did, and it still smoked. The Vertex 2 has it, so compare that to Vertex 3 that also has that...does it matter?

I just gently state that it's a non-point. "Old" 60's running around here day and night without TRIM...still ticking.

On current RAID controllers such as Intel ICH and PCH chipsets and third-party RAID cards, the answer is yes although as Chumly pointed out most modern SSD controllers have internal ITGC that isn't dependent on TRIM passthrough.

The OCZ VCA 2.0 used in the Revo3 series does allow TRIM passthrough which in conjunction with the ITGC in the individual Sandforce controllers, keeps the Revo3 fresh even in heavy use.
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In response to the original issue of this thread, I would gladly have sacrificed one videocard for a Revo3x2. I wish I could afford one (or even find one!). I'm currently booting from a single-layer dual-Sandforce Revo3 which limits me to a mere gigabyte per second on sequential reads.

You're not missing much. Seriously. The PCIe solution was an in-between product and just part of the growing pains of SSD itself. If I had to get into OCZ's head, it was a great solution they could do at the time while waiting on the rest of the tech world to catch up. But for $700!? Not a lot of boards even booted from it

Right now you have the S/ATA 6G standard and the OCZ3 which mate perfectly IMO and can only get better. A Vertex 3 250G drive does really well compared to either of those Revo's, and doesn't take up a precious PCIe slot. Sure it was something to drool over, but it was only a very short period of human months to match them things...and just let idiots like me actually waste money like that. I'm like Larry King..."I'm curious", and that can kill a dozen cats on endeavors like Revo purchases on a whim and "just to find out what the hype is". I'm seriously shaking my head at myself in guilt most of the time.

Like pro fighters, it's only a matter of time before that belt gets taken. However, in computer terms you buy the belt or wait two quarters to snatch it. Example? The 60G OCZ Apex was $375 and was mid level...Agility3 is seen less than a bill now. *sigh*