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 Post subject: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:11 pm 
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Thar is not much on bench marks that i have found on SATA 6Gb/s want to know what is the fast setup 1500 RPM Hard Drive or 2 7200 Raid 0 Hard Drives . What about On board Raid VS PCI-E Controller Card Raid ! Witch is better and Will what will it cost me ? want a FULL Rack down on this things . I ask you all Y is it so hard to put this info in a graft so its EZ to C how the DOGS are !


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:20 am 
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You might be able to receive assistance in your query if you used proper language... this is not an instant message or text format. We like words, sentences... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 am 
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Raid 0 for gaming is not needed, I use a V-Raptor and it loads games just fine. If Raid 0 breaks...one drive dies, you loose all info. If you are a speed freak, go with a SSD for your main drive and use a V-Raptor for your storage. There are larger drives today that are faster than V-Raptors and you may want to use one of those. A dedicated Raid card with its own on-board ram is the best way to go if you want fast hardware raid. Software raid, as in on-board Raid chips are slower.

Drive benchmarks:

http://www.tomshardware.com/us/

On the above link, once opened go to lower left, scroll to bottom, and choose the type of hard drive you want benchmarks on and open it/them.

As Superchips says, just type whole words so we know what you mean. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:51 pm 
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As Nastyman stated, if you want performance use SSDs.

RAID-0 with HDDs is as obsolete as the second millennium.

The whole idea behind RAID-0 (as compared to JBOD for creating large volumes) is performance. There is no redundancy as in RAID-1, RAID-5, etc. Even the best HDDs are low-performance devices suitable only for bulk data storage where highspeed reads and writes and IOs/sec are unimportant.

Why go through the expense and slightly increased chance of data loss of RAID-0 with something as slow as HDDs? HDDs aren't even capable of saturating SATA2 (3Gb/s) whereas high-end SSDs have already made SATA3 (6Gb/s) obsolete before it was even fully implemented.

If you're a serious gamer who wants greatly improved load times and higher frames-per-second due to quicker feeding of textures from storage to the graphics subsystem, you'll want to forget about old outmoded mechanical contraptions and go with solid state storage for your system and application drives. Save the HDDs for bulk storage like MP3, AVI and ISO files.

A few years ago I would have recommended SSD RAID-0 (it was two years ago that I was frustrated by the 650MB/s bottleneck of the Intel ICH9R which limited the sequential performance of my four Vertex1s in RAID-0) but most modern SSDs have high levels of parallelism which make external RAID-0 unnecessary.

Rather than using old-fashioned HDDs and a PCIe RAID card (or even worse, an onboard software RAID controller) get a PCI-e or HSDL-based SSD. Storage bandwidth should be measured in GB/sec not MB/sec, and IOs in hundreds of thousands of operations per second rather than mere thousands.

You're right in seeking better performance through faster storage but HDDs are not the way to achieve it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:08 am 
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I do not care if i lose date or not ! It is a gaming computer ! If its not on fire its not working hard enough ! SSDs are have bad feedback and cost to dam much . i am putting the SAUS Rampage III Formula LGA 1366 Intel X58 , (1) EVGA GTX 580 Black Ops Edition , Crucial Ballistix Tracer 6GB 240-pin DDR3 1600 CL8 , Intel Core i7 -960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130w Quad-core under $300 the best bang for the buck ! The hard drive is the weak link on this system looking to PUSH them HARD for speed . But in a Year replace them with something Better . 10,000 RPM hard drives are nozzle and die quickly 3 to 12 mounts . Raid 0 gives you the SPEED with out the cost at $ 75 a hard drive or under . the on-board raid some times can be a pain to work with on 2 times on two deferment boards give me fits about wanting to set the raid up . just a soft wait thing i guess . Just trying to get the feed back from you all . That is just from MY point view .


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:32 am 
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A low-end SSD beats the snot out of a 5-drive RAID 0 config. Just get a small SSD for your boot drive and then a terabyte HDD for storage if you don't want to spend too much. Heck, you alreasy spent $300 on the motherboard and $500 on the videocard...


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:05 pm 
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You make a good point . :P i like the way you put it . thank you .


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:33 am 
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Your games will not run faster using hard drives, the games run faster with top of the line video cards, cpus and good ram....4 gigs worth or above. You have to remember the whole computer runs in ram and the page-file system if there isn't enough ram to run in.

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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:38 pm 
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Well with all the help looks like i got . what i was looking for you-tube videos OCZ has a PCI-e card it is a SSD Card that is Solid State Drives and are Set at Raid 0 from the start if i get the 2X they can Boot from the Motherboard . than i can put the OS on it and Games than put a Stander Hard Drive in for all other info . under $200 . not bad for the boot time of 13 S . i think i will try it . its just 80GB but O well . prices will come down later .


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:05 am 
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How about a link to what you bought....

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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:30 am 
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a link .http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product Try this one .


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:58 pm 
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Well, for what you already spent on the PC, I was going to say might as well, LOL.


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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:40 am 
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The link goes nowhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Gaming Raid Setup 0
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:28 pm 
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The thread of fail...I want a 1,500RPM drive too. Is this Foster Brooks?


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