Quantcast

Maximum PC

It is currently Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:54 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 71 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:28 pm 
Team Member Top 500
Team Member Top 500
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:45 pm
Posts: 3036
Location: Central Florida
Ted, since you brought up folding performance... care to share with us???

Here's what my 1055t @ 3.5GHz has done lately... don't know if your 920 has done any of these, but I would love to see some numbers if it has :)

p6025 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:58 - 11,858.7 PPD
p6050 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:02 - 11,518.0 PPD
p6054 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:09 - 11,035.8 PPD
p6055 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:57 - 11,884.4 PPD
p6057 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:56 - 11,960.0 PPD
p6058 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:05 - 11,307.1 PPD
p6060 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:01 - 11,589.8 PPD
p6066 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:00 - 11,662.3 PPD
p6701 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:09:58 - 7,933.2 PPD
p6702 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:00 - 7,893.5 PPD
(compiled from HFM)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:43 pm 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
My i5 750@4.2GHz

p6025 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:33 - 14,006.6 PPD
p6050 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:29 - 14,351.0 PPD
p6055 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:40 - 13,288.2 PPD
p6057 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:45 - 12,847.8 PPD
p6060 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:39 - 13,379.3 PPD
p6701 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:08:36 - 9,897.4 PPD
p6702 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:08:37 - 9,868.7 PPD


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:16 am 
8086
8086

Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 4:58 am
Posts: 18
Location: Herndon, Va
My I7-920 @3.8 ghz does 6701's in 7 mins 30 secs tpf
does the 6000's series in a average of 3 mins 3 secs tpf
6900's in a average of 33 mins 40 secs tpf
2685's in 34 mins 10 secs tpf.

The last 2 you aren't able to do with AMD 6 cores.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:09 am 
Team Member Top 500
Team Member Top 500
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:45 pm
Posts: 3036
Location: Central Florida
kg4icg wrote:
The last 2 you aren't able to do with AMD 6 cores.


Not true, but as I posted in another thread, even though it's not against the EULA, Panda Group strongly discourages us from folding them on AMD 6-cores... but just for the record...

1090t @ 4GHz
[13:43:59] Project: 2685 (Run 6, Clone 21, Gen 27)
[13:43:59]
[13:43:59] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[13:43:59] Entering M.D.
[13:44:09] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[14:23:08] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[15:02:12] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[15:41:12] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:35 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
I love how this has become a useful thread! :)

Clockspeed obviously counts for a lot in folding. My 4-core, non-HT i5-750@4.2GHz pulls better numbers than the slower clocked 1090T. However, multiple cores do help ... the 4-core with HT (8 functional cores) i7-920 @ 3.8 outpowers my slightly faster clocked 750.

I'd love to see what a 1055T and 1090T can pull if clocked around 4GHz .. with 6 physical cores, it should hit some pretty decent numbers!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:58 am 
8086
8086

Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:03 am
Posts: 28
Jipstyle wrote:
I love how this has become a useful thread! :)


I love how Jip has made it clear he doesn't have a girlfriend! 8)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:36 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
JAB Creations wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
I love how this has become a useful thread! :)


I love how Jip has made it clear he doesn't have a girlfriend! 8)


From the Forum Rules: 3. Don't flame. No baiting posts to draw a flame war.

This is your only warning. If you want to be a dick, take it to the Break Room or PM.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:39 am 
Willamette
Willamette
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:59 pm
Posts: 1214
Location: Don't know still looking for "there"
JAB Creations wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
I love how this has become a useful thread! :)


I love how Jip has made it clear he doesn't have a girlfriend! 8)


Where did the girfriend topic come from? Let me reread the tile, Mmm. :roll:

Back to reading comprehension 101. :? 8)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:44 am 
Team Member Top 500
Team Member Top 500
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:45 pm
Posts: 3036
Location: Central Florida
Thanks to the bonus points, every little bit of clock speed can have a big impact on folding performance! I would have hoped that the i5 750 would post better numbers... (it was one of the options I was looking at before going the AMD 6-core route) but extrapolating out the numbers it seems only on par with or slightly above my 1055t... I sure do wish Santa would be nice & drop me a sweet little i7-9xx system under my tree :!: :!: :!:

1055t @ stock 2.8GHz
p6025 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:25 - 10,093ppd
p6066 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:04:18 - 10,463ppd
p6701 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:57 - 6,889ppd
p6702 - Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:58 - 6,873ppd


Using the stock performance compared to overclocked performance to extrapolate theoretical performance of 1055t @ 4.2GHz (14x300)
p6025 ~ 3:31 / frame ~ 14,206 ppd
p6066 ~ 3:42 / frame ~ 13,109 ppd
p6701/6702 ~ 9:00 / frame ~ 9,245


Very dissapointed in the TS on that last remark...


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:07 pm 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
Nice!

I'd love to see some hard numbers, though. Can you OC that badboy?

Maybe we can ask Jake to chime in .. I think he's OCing an AMD chip for FAH use .. I'm not sure whether it is a hex-core, though.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:29 pm 
8086
8086

Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:03 am
Posts: 28
Jipstyle wrote:
JAB Creations wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
I love how this has become a useful thread! :)


I love how Jip has made it clear he doesn't have a girlfriend! 8)


From the Forum Rules: 3. Don't flame. No baiting posts to draw a flame war.

This is your only warning. If you want to be a dick, take it to the Break Room or PM.


Oh! Look who's been a total dick the whole time! I think you should get your moderator privileges revoked because all you've done is been a total undeniable dick the whole time trolling my thread.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:09 pm 
8086
8086
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:39 am
Posts: 70
Location: Bikini Bottom Bizarro World
As Max Talbot would say: "Ok, this guy is a real douche."










This statement was neither endorsed nor approved by Max Talbot.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:18 pm 
Malware specialist
Malware specialist
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:49 pm
Posts: 11696
Location: Kansas City, KS
JAB Creations, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are a troll.

In fact, if you re-read the posts, Jipstyle mentions several times that the hardware is "good enough" for most people and has not really attacked you.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:24 pm 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
JAB Creations wrote:
Oh! Look who's been a total dick the whole time! I think you should get your moderator privileges revoked because all you've done is been a total undeniable dick the whole time trolling my thread.


As you've been told countless times, disagreeing with you is not trolling. Disagreeing with me is not trolling either.

On the other hand, throwing insults directly into my face .. that is against the rules. I've been more than patient with you. You can sit and think about this for three days and decide whether this forum is really the place for you. Enjoy your vacation from the forums.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:12 pm 
Maximum PC Editor
Maximum PC Editor
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:37 am
Posts: 331
Location: Maximum PC Secret Headquarters
While the forum mods don't represent Maximum PC at all, they're totally right in this case, JAB Creations. You came in with a chip on your shoulder, resisted any attempt to reason with you, and then when the conversation changed you popped up with a non sequitur insult.

You can come back when your ban is over, provided you understand that we're not insulting you or your hardware when we say other hardware is faster, especially when that's true.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:14 pm 
Team Member Top 500
Team Member Top 500
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:45 pm
Posts: 3036
Location: Central Florida
Jipstyle wrote:
Nice!

I'd love to see some hard numbers, though. Can you OC that badboy?

Maybe we can ask Jake to chime in .. I think he's OCing an AMD chip for FAH use .. I'm not sure whether it is a hex-core, though.


When I get a replacement I might try to push it past its current 3.5GHz (14x250), but I'm a virtual noob when it comes to overclocking, so I'd rather not push my luck...


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:56 am 
Million Club - 20 Plus
Million Club - 20 Plus
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 5:32 am
Posts: 4294
My i7 can run all -bigadv's at 3.3 ghz. It could actually run all except p2684 at 2.9 ghz for a 43 min TPF. 4 ghz is the min needed to run -bigadv on an x6 and hope to make all of the deadlines.

Using logic, my i7 is better clock for clock than the phenom ii x6. meanwhile it is at 3.55, and getting 36-38 min tpf.

I think I was exaggerating with my initial statement, and am revising it to be 3.5 ghz instead of 3.3 ghz





Ted


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:28 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24238
Location: Granite Heaven
Better clock for clock makes sense to me .. but which brings the better point / $ ratio?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:16 am 
Million Club - 20 Plus
Million Club - 20 Plus
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 5:32 am
Posts: 4294
Right now, i7 is, since stanford does not like you running -bigadv on a phenom ii x6. You have to fool the client into running in WINE in a VM with 8 cores, thus fooling the client. Kasson (@ Pande Group) does not like it.





Ted


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Clear Intel bias and misuse of the word budget
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:33 am 
Malware specialist
Malware specialist
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:49 pm
Posts: 11696
Location: Kansas City, KS
Tedster wrote:
Right now, i7 is, since stanford does not like you running -bigadv on a phenom ii x6. You have to fool the client into running in WINE in a VM with 8 cores, thus fooling the client. Kasson (@ Pande Group) does not like it.





Ted


I haven't been keeping up lately but, why do they not want people running bigadv on Phenom II x6's?


Top
  Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 71 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

© 2014 Future US, Inc. All rights reserved.