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 Post subject: Re: Certification and Emplyment
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:02 pm 
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Engrish fail.


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 Post subject: Re: Certification and Emplyment
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:07 am 
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Yeah, but his point was clear: Certificates are necessary but insufficient.


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 Post subject: Re: Certification and Emplyment
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:41 pm 
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OCNoob wrote:
Yeah, but his point was clear: Certificates are necessary but insufficient.

Thanks for the translation. I was wondering what that was all about. :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Certification and Emplyment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:31 pm 
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I've been in the industry for 20+ years.

In the late 80's/early 90's, educational degree was very important. I'd still like to think that it is, but having watched this sector for quite some time, I have seen trends starting in the late 90s that prioritized certifications. Even though I had a BS in computer science, and 10 years experience, some empolyers ONLY wanted to know if I had my A+ cert. I didnt, as that entry-level cert was way beneath my educational level. They didnt know better.

Maybe, just maybe, that is starting to reverse now. Employers have begun to see that narrowly focused people dont perform as well when broader skills and abilities may be necessary. That geek might be a coding success, but if he doesnt have good personal hygiene, HR is not going to like it. (ok, thats a stereotype example, but maybe you get the idea.)

I hate to say it, but it probably will come down to what the EMPLOYER regards (even if they are wrong) as most valuable. It will be up to the candidate to convince them otherwise.

For me, experience and education combine together as most valuable. I dont care as much about general certifications. Specialized ones help, if that is your desired field.


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 Post subject: Re: Certification and Emplyment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:58 pm 
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If someone with a degree applies to a job that requires an A+ cert, they deserve their 10$/hr position.

This thread has served its time ... resurrecting a month-old thread is bad form. Locking. :)


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