Buyer beware, GFWL+Codemasters+online+unsupported country=
Can not race online. ( Games for Windows LIVE )
This what happening with DIRT 2 and will we see this happen with F1 and if there a GRID 2? Checkout this repost:
Will Codemasters give new CD-key to those players in unsupport countires that need...
Will Codemasters give new CD-key to those players in unsupported countries that need a new CD-key so they can make a new LIVE ID that will let them race DIRT 2 online?
A lot these players have bought other Codemasters racing games and race them online and now they can not race DIRT 2 online. Will Codemasters refund them their money since they were not warn that they can not use GFWL to race online?
Microsoft say they will not fix this problem, the ball is in Codemasters court.Problem - Dirt2 - cd-key and windows live accaunthotchilli1327 replied on Thu, Dec 10 2009 12:32 PM
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With Dirt 2 the Key is tied to the original Live ID that you first used the game with and you cannot change this. This is the decision of the game Publisher, not GFWL. Go to the game publisher, Codemasters, to see if they can help you with a new key.
Zavrazhnov replied on Wed, Dec 9 2009 5:12 PM
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I want you again to answer. What can I do in my situation
I live in London
But I work in England-Russia company. Offices in both countrys.
When the game appears in Steam - I buy it. I was in Russia.
When I buy it - I immediately launch it, then register accaunt in windows live and it was registered with Russia region (because I was in Russia, and windows was with Russia region settings)
When I was buying the game, there were no warnings, that I can't play a game if my account is from no-supported country. I read about it only on windows live forum, when the problem happened.
Now I register new account with my real United Kingdom region setting - but I can't move the key to it.
Now I can't play a game not from Russia, not from United Kingdom.
So what can I do?
Fuvio79 replied on Wed, Dec 9 2009 4:29 PM
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If we could login first and after that we were asked for the key we wouldn't have this problem. But the sole fact that GFWL works everywhere if you just fill in you live in US (or other supported country) is ridiculous. I don't care about Dirt 2 anymore but I'll be definitely more careful in future. By that I mean I'll never buy another game that is connected with GFWL in any way.
And will we have this same problem with Codemasters games in 2010? It things like this that drive paying customers to be a pirate and this does not help boost the sales of computer games.
Don't feel right buying DIRT 2 if others are getting screwed out of their hard earn dollars. There over 166 unsupported countries that are lock out of racing DIRT 2 online. GFWL stole my gameAttention. This game is a scam, as it works on Windows-LiveSteam vs GFWL ( Games for Windows LIVE ) and unsupported countries.
Here a post to give some perspective on Microsoft foot dragging: Don't hold your breath while waiting for Microsoft ....
Don't hold your breath while waiting for Microsoft to add more supported countries to GFWL ( Games for Windows LIVE ) that will be allow to race online. I hope Codemasters will change their mind and make DIRT 2 the last racing game to use GFWL!
I found this post over at Games for Windows LIVE forum:NON-LIVE SUPPORTED COUNTRIES POST
Wii60 DarkPGR wrote:
Please Codemasters and Microsoft fix this injustice to online racing! Let the WHOLE world race online like we do with GRID and Flatout 2!!
When it comes to Steam, they had just as many problems, if not more then what the Live service with GFWL is experiencing now. As to the number of Live countries supported I am not going to specualate on that because I have no idea why there is so few compaired to others and screaming and acting like a little child is not going to change that. I am sure as time goes on more and more countries will become live enabled. Time will tell.
Some fact checking:
Steam launched on September 2003 and to this day supports hundreds of countries
Xbox LIVE launched on November 2002 and to this day supports 26 countries
Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection launched on November 2005 and to this day supports all countries where Nintendo officially sells their consoles.
PlayStation Network launched on November 2006 and to this day supports 56 countries, with Latin America lacking the Store and PlayStation Home.
In 6 years, Steam has achieved full support for over 200 Countries
In 7 years, Microsoft has barely achieved support for 26 Countries
In 4 years, Nintendo has achieved support for over 60 Countries, all of them available since launch.
In 3 years, Sony has achieved support for 56 Countries
So let me doubt that time will tell, and that more will be added as time goes on, because LIVE has existed for longer than Steam and other similar services, and is the one with the worst support.
And hopefully new racing game Blur.