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Inte Xeon and Q6600...whats the difference

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Inte Xeon and Q6600...whats the difference Reply with quote

I was just curious to know from the more advanced users what is the difference between a Quad core Xeon and a Core2 Quad core 6600 or core i7 quad. All are 64bit CPU's so what makes Xeon's more powerful? What are the application differences in apps like Photoshop premier and after effect etc.

Thanks for any insight.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't usually have a higher processing power, but they usually have a couple of extra features, or get new features first. Also, Xeons are used in Multi-CPU configurations (not to be confused with multi-core). Plain-jane Core2's can't be used in a Dual-CPU board for example.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, Xeon is a catch all term for current server parts, you should destiguish between Xeons based on Netburst and Xeons based off Conroe and Xeons based on Nehalem.

they're all called Xeon but the performance might be radically different
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, so Im not necessarily getting more power from a Xeon? Applications that use more than one core will have the same amount of processing power regardless if they are xeon quard core or some other flavor of quad core?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiRTDOG wrote:
Awesome, so Im not necessarily getting more power from a Xeon? Applications that use more than one core will have the same amount of processing power regardless if they are xeon quard core or some other flavor of quad core?


This is true however, dual quad core Xeons have 8 cores to do the work vs 4 cores on the Core 2/i7 quads.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, Xeons are always high-binned parts. So in theory they should be more stable and last longer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiRTDOG wrote:
Awesome, so Im not necessarily getting more power from a Xeon? Applications that use more than one core will have the same amount of processing power regardless if they are xeon quard core or some other flavor of quad core?
Home users will not get more from Xeons. The lack of 64-bit and multi-threaded applications prevents most of us from utilizing the full potential of 4+ cores. That's what we need to be concerned about.

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Also, Xeons are always high-binned parts. So in theory they should be more stable and last longer.
It's a nice theory, but Xeon's still show up DOA. Laughing It's only fair to mention "low-binned parts" last for decades. I've always wanted to see solid unbiased statistics.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have stressed in theory when I said that I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's zero DOA Xeons. There's also zero DOA Pentiums released. Those that are even questionable get put in a 55 gallon drum to be destroyed. That's QA at it's best.

Solid unbiased stats are trade secret. You'll never see them...just hear about them. User error is the soul factor in DOA Intel procs. All returns are tested, pass, and get put back into the mix.

Xeons are of no interest to home users. They don't overclock better, and they don't process more. They have a counterpart for the home user that is equal and cheaper. It's just sometimes that some Xeon counterparts are good buys. Q9450's were $320 and sold out, bought an x3350 for $298. Same chip, cheaper.
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