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Will the Phantom Game System have a succesful launch?
Poll ended at Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:42 am
Yes, I already planned on purchasing it. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Perhaps, it might be different enough to succeed. 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Maybe, I'll wait and see what happens between now and when it is released. 27%  27%  [ 6 ]
No, I have my heart set on a new PS3 or XBox2. 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
Yikes! Another game console! 23%  23%  [ 5 ]
No way, I hate ALL game consoles. 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
No way, I hate ALL game consoles. 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 22
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 Post subject: Is there room for another console?
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I wonder if the world needs another game console at this time. This one has some distinguishing characteristics though. First, it is actually pretty good looking.

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And nice specs...
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Phantom™ Game Receiver
  • AMD® Athlon™ XP 2500+ central processing unit (CPU)
  • NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5700 Ultra graphics processing unit (GPU)
  • NVIDIA nForce™2 Ultra 400 platform processor
  • 256 MB RAM
  • 40 GB local content cache
  • Microsoft Windows XP® Embedded Operating System
  • Dynamic, personalized user interfaces customizable for age, gender or
  • technical expertise
  • Lapboard, mouse and game pad included
  • HDTV and Dolby® Digital 5.1 compatible
  • Works with any consumer-standard broadband Internet Service Provider (ISP): DSL or faster

Plus, you simply buy, rent or demo games over a broadband connection. IIRC, the CEO was the project leader on the XBox. So what do you guys think?


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If it makes 6 monts I will be surprised.
Hell if it even makes it out the door.


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grydlok wrote:
If it makes 6 monts I will be surprised.
Hell if it even makes it out the door.


I voted wait and see.

Having read some information on them at other sites, I believe they're seeking out the family and female gaming segments with their easy to use installation and sleeker, living room friendly, design. Remember, the largest segment of gamers are people who play games at places like Yahoo Games, not those of us waiting patiently for Id.

PVR functionality would definitely help these guys too.


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Not gonna happen for IL. This is why.... Buy it for $200 or sign a 2 year contract. $25-30/month either way. If you stay a non-contract member for 2 years, you get your $200 back. That $30/month will get you standard content. So when HL2 and Doom 3 are released, assuming this machine can run them, will that be standard content? Hell no. Tack another $30-50 on there for that game alone. Thus you are left with $720 investment over 2 years with no additional content. How is this better than buying a PC or all the game consoles out right now?

Also, Kevin Bachus is President or something. The CEO is Timothy Roberts.


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Not gonna happen for IL. This is why.... Buy it for $200 or sign a 2 year contract. $25-30/month either way. If you stay a non-contract member for 2 years, you get your $200 back. That $30/month will get you standard content. So when HL2 and Doom 3 are released, assuming this machine can run them, will that be standard content? Hell no. Tack another $30-50 on there for that game alone. Thus you are left with $720 investment over 2 years with no additional content. How is this better than buying a PC or all the game consoles out right now?


Well, the hardware is faster then 90% of pc's out right now. Sure, you're not going to get DX9 features like pixel shading, but how many people will actually fork over $400+ for a video card that can anyways? Not many.

They will live and die by their subscription content. If the content is good, and the rental prices cheap, they have a shot at it. The last game that I bought for my PS2 was GTA3. Why buy? Renting is easier, cheaper, removes some risk, and who has time to play a large commercial game several times anyways. This also has the potential to remove some costs associated with publishing/marketing games.

Hopefully, if this doesn't work, a content system similiar to this one will pop up somewhere else and help small and indie game developers out. Did you happen to see the Quality of Life white paper published by the IGDA recently? Tragic. It's like being a porn star - Jenna makes a lot of money, but everyone else is just getting screwed. 8)


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Also, Kevin Bachus is President or something. The CEO is Timothy Roberts.


My bad. Keven Bachus, the President and COO, was one of four people responsible for the XBox.


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its going to be tough but it still looks good i wouldnt mind getting it but it will probally be like the 3DO system


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forgot to add pc will still overcome


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forgot to add pc will still overcome


True. But consoles are where most of the money is... :)


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Don't get me wrong, On Demand Gaming is a great idea, but IL can't pull it off. Sony or Nintendo could, but not IL. They have 0 reputation and a boat load of negative press with all the lawsuits etc.


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seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


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DaBrain wrote:
Don't get me wrong, On Demand Gaming is a great idea, but IL can't pull it off. Sony or Nintendo could, but not IL. They have 0 reputation and a boat load of negative press with all the lawsuits etc.


Ah. I didn't know about the lawsuits. That is like a spanner in the cogs.


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BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


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Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


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Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


Not for $200 - and the game distribution features are going to take a long time to write.


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ocnoob wrote:
Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


Most nonPC ports for consoles are built with low res screens in mind so its not an issue. Yes you could just build that, the hardware isn't the thrill, its the secure VPN based game delivery system they are touting.


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Gadget wrote:
ocnoob wrote:
Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


Not for $200 - and the game distribution features are going to take a long time to write.


They claim to have it done....


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Don't get me wrong, On Demand Gaming is a great idea, but IL can't pull it off. Sony or Nintendo could, but not IL. They have 0 reputation and a boat load of negative press with all the lawsuits etc.


Ah. I didn't know about the lawsuits. That is like a spanner in the cogs.


They sued HardOCP for an article they wrote last September that disclosed info about Mr. Roberts that they claim is false, but when asked to correct it they didn't touch on any major issues just his age and stuff. Then they continued through with the suit. Morons....


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DaBrain wrote:
ocnoob wrote:
Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


Most nonPC ports for consoles are built with low res screens in mind so its not an issue. Yes you could just build that, the hardware isn't the thrill, its the secure VPN based game delivery system they are touting.


You'll start seeing HDTV games pretty soon - if not already(?) - you probably no more about this then me though.... :)


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Gadget wrote:
DaBrain wrote:
ocnoob wrote:
Gadget wrote:
BiggPa wrote:
seems just like a computer, but with a crappy monitor (the TV screen)


Isn't that true of all consoles though?


it is true...
and couldnt a person just build that?


Most nonPC ports for consoles are built with low res screens in mind so its not an issue. Yes you could just build that, the hardware isn't the thrill, its the secure VPN based game delivery system they are touting.


You'll start seeing HDTV games pretty soon - if not already(?) - you probably no more about this then me though.... :)


Gamecube supports 480p so some games are and Xbox does up to 1080i (only 4-5) and 720p (a boatload). So it's getting better. I am in IRC right now btw....


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o_O costs $200?


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