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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:13 am 
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also, will usb drives still work/cooperate with *nix? i have a pendrive and 40gb external backup drive that i use frequently... will i be able to access those files (pen drive is fat32 and 40gb is ntfs)? thanks,


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well...mandrake and fedora are very n00b friendly...as far as the install and OS config go...with slackware and gentoo on the other end,as far as USB devices...most should like linux.

games...that is a tough one, game makers are just waiting for a larger market. and YES to play windows games you will need an emulator or dualboot.


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ok... so, i downloaded knoppix using bittorrent... only problem is, theres no image file! wtf? do i have to use some program to /create/ a disk out of these files? The contents are what should be on the disk, but there's no image file... theres a winRAR, and a few other small things, so i thought maybe it was in the winRAR so i extracted it, and there are the contents of what should be on the cd, but no image file... is there some way i can make a cd using the contents given? LOL, there has to be some way, thousands of ppl download it using BT... what did i overlook...

Links to what I had...

1. http://usera.imagecave.com/bazzel/1.jpg
2. http://usera.imagecave.com/bazzel/2.jpg
3. http://usera.imagecave.com/bazzel/3.jpg

Yeah, and within (as you can see in Pic3) all the other folders there are no image files... any guesses?

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here ya go...most of the time UFL has fast servers...direct link to the english version of knoppix:

ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/knop ... -16-EN.iso


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thanks, i got it downloaded and burned to a cd... whoa man its slow on b/c of my lappys 24x cd-drive... i have good specs otherwise, but man... takes FOREVER. infact, i haven't even gotten off the ground and i spent like half an hour (when i mean not off the ground, it took like 5 min to load the knoppix (same as start) menu). So, I've learned one thing real quick... Gotta have an install. I'll dual boot and if I fook anything up on the linux side, i can just erase all of that and it wont effect the windows side right? i was thinking mandrake mebbe? Should I go for the newest version? 10.1? found the tutorial section on mandrake's site... lookin around, if you know of any good places to go that will just show me how to get my feet wet, it'd be appreciated... lookin forward to messin around :) . thanks,

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also, should a noob use kde or gnome? whats the dif? how do you switch to/from? thx,

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KDE has more 'stuff' integrated into it .. I would suggest it for a noob.

Other than that .. they are, different. That's all. :)

You can log out of one and into the other if you have them both installed .. no need to reboot or anything like that. It is like closing one application and starting another .. actually, that is exactly what you'd be doing. :)


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KDE ang gnome are just an interface to the linux kernel...

if i were you i would try fedora first...but lets get you data backed up first...unless ya wanna loose some(possibly all) of what ya have on your HD

it is best to do a clean install of windows and leaving a blank(and unformated) partition for linux<<<around 8-10 GB

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http://fedora.redhat.com/download/

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linu ... lboot.html


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(cringes) theres no way to create a separate partition now? oooh, really not interested in doing a wipe out... yet... any other way?

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how much free space ya got?

ya want 15% of a windows partition free for defragging..

and linux should get around 8GB or so...

also...are you using a FAT32 or NTFS partition?


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i got 23 gigs free... so, 15gbs free w/windows is plenty of room (60gb HD). cool :) reading that FAQ right now...


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when installing fedora...you can "shrink" a windows partition....but anytime you mess with a partition you risk killing the filesystem and forcing a reformat.


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well, is there some program i could use to partition my current HD into two parts? Just take 8gb of the unused part of my current and make it into its own partition? Thanks,

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partition magic...but it is still the same risk.


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oh... so, i should backup all my stuff before i go ahead... okee dokee... here we go now...


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wait... one more thing... do i need to format the new partitio for fedora or will it do it during the installation? if i do, which type NTFS or FAT32? thanks,


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leave the new partition "blank"...i have never used partition magic before...so you might not have a choice to leave it blank....if you have to format it...use FAT32


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drainbread wrote:
KDE ang gnome are just an interface to the linux kernel...


Umm ... not really. Well, not to nitpick, but not at all.

KDE and Gnome are desktops ... they present a GUI for the user to interact with their system.

The kernel is several, very deep, layers lower than that.


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You have to leave the new partition blank, because you will be creating several (at least two) partitions within it ... and I don't think that partition magic can create linux partitions.

You'll need one small partition .. about 512 MB .. for your swap file. This is used the same way that windows uses a swap file, but linux puts it its own partition with its own filesystem.

And you will need a second partition on which you'll install linux. You can have more, of course ... but there is no need to get overly complicated.

So .. use PM to create some empty space on your drive, then create the two partitions during your install ... depending on the distro that you use, this may even be done automatically. :)


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cool :) now i just have to get my windows backup utility working... keeps giving me this error and i want to backup all my stuff before i do anything... I tried like 8 times, restarted and tried, still didn't work...

Backup Status
Operation: Backup
Active backup destination: File
Media name: "backup2.bkf created 1/19/2005 at 7:38 PM"


Error returned while creating the volume shadow copy:80042301
Aborting Backup.

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The operation did not successfully complete.

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any ideas? or alternative (but free...) backup programs? thanks,

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