Quantcast

Maximum PC

It is currently Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:31 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: PROCESS in linux (which ones are bad ?)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:02 pm 
Thunderbird
Thunderbird
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 pm
Posts: 771
Location: Cliffside Park NJ
hey all,

Just curious if theres a list of evil suspicious stuffs in the linux list of running PROCESS. List of evil stuffs as in potential trojan / virus / hacker / backdoor, etc.

I use PC Linx OS Gnome edition and on the "system monitor", it shows alot of stuffs such as..

Process name Status %CPU Nice ID Memory
nautilus sleeping 35 0 5593 189M
firefox-bin sleeping 2 0 12182 66.9M

etc etc..


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:07 pm 
Million Club - 5 Plus*
Million Club - 5 Plus*
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:37 pm
Posts: 4745
Location: In the monkey's litterbox
Linux will have a lot more processes running due to the design of the system. Very few to none are bad processes.

I go look now, and I have 93 processes running.

ex: nautilus is the file browser in gnome, firefox-bin the Firefox executable


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:36 pm 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
smartcat99s wrote:
Linux will have a lot more processes running due to the design of the system. Very few to none are bad processes.

I go look now, and I have 93 processes running.

ex: nautilus is the file browser in gnome, firefox-bin the Firefox executable


I am sitting at 160 processes right now. I am using OpenSuSE 11 64-bit. Although that is while my system is idle-ish, I normally hover around 220 processes or so after a couple VM's are running for classes and having Netbeans running. I am assuming since I am running the default kernel, I have a larger amount of processes along with quite a few unneeded modules.

Kinda off-topic, Smart, do you run a custom compiled kernel?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:39 pm 
Thunderbird
Thunderbird
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 pm
Posts: 771
Location: Cliffside Park NJ
oh thanks 4 the reply.

The reason why I asked is cuz i've been running as "ROOT"

I run as ROOT all the time because it is just soooo much more convinient for me -- I got tired of running as user having to deal with "limited access" to any randomly-attached internal harddrives / external hdd / usb stick, etc. I got tired of have to modify mtab / fstab / chown / etc.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:48 pm 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
logicmaster2003 wrote:
oh thanks 4 the reply.

The reason why I asked is cuz i've been running as "ROOT"

I run as ROOT all the time because it is just soooo much more convinient for me -- I got tired of running as user having to deal with "limited access" to any randomly-attached internal harddrives / external hdd / usb stick, etc. I got tired of have to modify mtab / fstab / chown / etc.


I will be the first to warn you that running around in the root account when not needed is not a good idea. It opens you up to being prone to insecurity. It may work if you are the only box in the house or office, but it generally is never a good practice. If you need the root account that much, consider setting up your normally user as a sudo account. This way you would have more access to the system but are still not opening your system up nearly as much. \

Side note, what file system type are your internal and external hdds, and flash drives? In my system I set up a symbolic link between the regular ntfs driver and the ntfs3g driver to allow all users read / write privileges to my passport. If your flash drives are FAT, PClInuxOS should recognize and setup read / write privileges for all users.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:32 pm 
Thunderbird
Thunderbird
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 pm
Posts: 771
Location: Cliffside Park NJ
oh hi !

Thanks 4 the reply. Yea.. my linuxbox is on the router together with 2 other computers (all in my bedroom).. gamer PC ( winXP) and another PC to record tv shows ( win XP).

Oh.. how do you make a user = sudo account ? I might just have to do that.

Regarding the filesystems, I got them all..
PClinuxOS = ReiserFS
HDD1 = XFS
HDA6 = FAT16
SDA1 = XFS
HDC1 = NTFS Fuseblk
usb thumbdrives, external HDD = FAT16 or FAT32


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:46 pm 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
logicmaster2003 wrote:
oh hi !

Thanks 4 the reply. Yea.. my linuxbox is on the router together with 2 other computers (all in my bedroom).. gamer PC ( winXP) and another PC to record tv shows ( win XP).

Oh.. how do you make a user = sudo account ? I might just have to do that.

Regarding the filesystems, I got them all..
PClinuxOS = ReiserFS
HDD1 = XFS
HDA6 = FAT16
SDA1 = XFS
HDC1 = NTFS Fuseblk
usb thumbdrives, external HDD = FAT16 or FAT32


Any particular reason you are using ReiserFS and XFS? The FAT drives should mount with read / write permissions natively. I have not used PClinuxOS in depth. Lemme look around and get back to you on how to make a sudo account on that particular distro.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:49 pm 
Thunderbird
Thunderbird
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 pm
Posts: 771
Location: Cliffside Park NJ
hiya unlawful :)

last time i googled for whats the best filesystem to use for big video files and it points ot XFS. I forgot why I picked ReiserFS for my "/" though !

This evening I played with 2 installs: OpenGEU and Earmusic.

OpenGEU is just like Elive enlightenment (which I still love) but after doing the auto-update, ubuntu killed it by overwritting with ubuntu native.

Earmusic .. from denmark.. NICE.. but it bored me after just 3 hours of use. So now I mounted my PCLinuxOS back on :)

Thanks:)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:04 pm 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
For NTFS read / write support in PCLinuxOS check here. As for setting up a sudo account, there should be an option in your control panel.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:35 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24222
Location: Granite Heaven
To answer your original question: no, there is no list of 'bad processes'.

There are so few virii and trojans written for linux that you don't need to worry about it too much. Use antivirus (Clam AV is popular) and scan your PC from time to time and you'll be fine.

Far more important is to set up a user account and use it rather than root. Running as root on a day to day basis is colossally stupid. ;)


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:59 am 
team psycho or sumthin
team psycho or sumthin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:58 am
Posts: 6498
Location: I live on the verge of insanity
Jipstyle wrote:
To answer your original question: no, there is no list of 'bad processes'.

There are so few virii and trojans written for linux that you don't need to worry about it too much. Use antivirus (Clam AV is popular) and scan your PC from time to time and you'll be fine.

Far more important is to set up a user account and use it rather than root. Running as root on a day to day basis is colossally stupid. ;)


*cough*windows*cough*


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:01 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24222
Location: Granite Heaven
Running Windows on day-to-day basis is colossally stupid?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:09 am 
team psycho or sumthin
team psycho or sumthin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:58 am
Posts: 6498
Location: I live on the verge of insanity
Pretty much :D


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:15 am 
SON OF A GUN
SON OF A GUN
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:41 am
Posts: 11605
Jipstyle wrote:
Running Windows on day-to-day basis is colossally stupid?


<-- Zero issues.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:29 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24222
Location: Granite Heaven
CrashTECH wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
Running Windows on day-to-day basis is colossally stupid?


<-- Zero issues.


Me too!

Other than issues with self-esteem now that I'm a Windows user again. :cry:

:lol:


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:24 am 
SON OF A GUN
SON OF A GUN
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:41 am
Posts: 11605
When did you come back to Windows? :) XP? Vista?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:59 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24222
Location: Granite Heaven
CrashTECH wrote:
When did you come back to Windows? :) XP? Vista?


I use an XP desktop at work because most of my tools (Framemaker, WebWorks, RoboHelp, other Adobe apps) are Windows only.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:09 pm 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
Jipstyle wrote:
Running Windows on day-to-day basis is colossally stupid?


For the most part, unless you VM it with a ghost backup. So when the inevitable breakage occurs, it is even easier to recover from it...A plus is using linux as the host.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:33 am 
Java Junkie
Java Junkie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 24222
Location: Granite Heaven
UnLawFulGod wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
Running Windows on day-to-day basis is colossally stupid?


For the most part, unless you VM it with a ghost backup. So when the inevitable breakage occurs, it is even easier to recover from it...A plus is using linux as the host.


You missed the whole conversation preceding this, didn't you?


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:11 am 
Sharptooth
Sharptooth
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 pm
Posts: 386
You missed me caring.


Top
  Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group