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 Post subject: Any Linux experts want to be in MPC?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:32 am 
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Hey all,

So I'm coming to the ol' MPC Linux community for help on this one. I'm looking for a writer -- someone who can craft one of Maximum PC's how-to articles. Specifically, I want to feature an article about setting up Wine / running Windows applications and games on Wine.

This article pays, obviously. And it's a bit far out in the distance, so you'd have a decent amount of time to do it. If you think you have the chops, shoot me an e-mail at david@maximumpc.com. Attach one writing sample. No stories or prose -- something that shows your skill at explaining a complicated task in an easy-to-digest manner. Word format, please.

I'd love to feature someone from our very own community, and I'm excited to see who can step up to the plate! I'll stop taking submissions a week from today -- so June 25.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:34 pm 
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A Linux article written in Word.....blasphemy!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:35 pm 
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Fine. Word documents or Open Office documents will be acceptable. :D


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*cracks knuckles*

This could be fun. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:40 pm 
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OOo writes to word format...


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:24 pm 
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.txt ftw!


sadly, I am not around a 'nix machine and neither would I be able to explain the complicated parts in satisfactory amounts without one.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:32 am 
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I could certianly contribute a few things, but as far as an entire article (esepcially on WINE) is not within my current realm of ability.

HOWEVER, I think there is a great number of people here that could do it, and quite well I might say.


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Going to need more details on this.

What distribution specifically, what exactly do you want it to run, 32 bit or 64 bit, etc?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:47 pm 
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hackman2007 wrote:
Going to need more details on this.

What distribution specifically, what exactly do you want it to run, 32 bit or 64 bit, etc?


What's popular? What's the easiest way for a total Linux noob to install the alternate OS and use Wine to access common Windows programs? How do they do that?

I would assume 32-bit, given its popularity amongst most normal users.


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TheMurph wrote:
hackman2007 wrote:
Going to need more details on this.

What distribution specifically, what exactly do you want it to run, 32 bit or 64 bit, etc?


What's popular? What's the easiest way for a total Linux noob to install the alternate OS and use Wine to access common Windows programs? How do they do that?

I would assume 32-bit, given its popularity amongst most normal users.


Well, assuming Maximum PC does a lot of articles on Ubuntu, I'm going to assume this is being done on Ubuntu?

Shouldn't be too hard of a task using apt-get. Of course I'm not going to tell you how though in case someone else wants to do it :P .


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hackman2007 wrote:
Shouldn't be too hard of a task using apt-get. Of course I'm not going to tell you how though in case someone else wants to do it :P .


Just for clarity's sake, the how-to would cover "how to slap said Linux distro on a drive and get it up and running," as well as "how to then use Wine to do things like Microsoft Office / Starcraft / etc."

Five steps, ~270 words apiece. It can be a lot!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:07 pm 
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Starcraft on Linux :?: :?: Heck yeah !! I'll follow those instructions :!: :!:
How about Empire Earth while your at it ?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
I would no longer need windows then :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: 8) 8)


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tiredoldman wrote:
Starcraft on Linux :?: :?: Heck yeah !! I'll follow those instructions :!: :!:

ahem.
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TheMurph wrote:
tiredoldman wrote:
Starcraft on Linux :?: :?: Heck yeah !! I'll follow those instructions :!: :!:

ahem.
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WOW :shock: :shock: :!: HOW did you do that :?: PLEASE :?: :?:
I have nothing but problems setting up wine on Ubuntu..
Then again,,I'm brain damaged too,,most "How to's" are tooo complicated for me. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Sorry,getting off topic..go on ..


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:15 pm 
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tiredoldman wrote:
TheMurph wrote:
tiredoldman wrote:
Starcraft on Linux :?: :?: Heck yeah !! I'll follow those instructions :!: :!:

ahem.
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WOW :shock: :shock: :!: HOW did you do that :?: PLEASE :?: :?:
I have nothing but problems setting up wine on Ubuntu..
Then again,,I'm brain damaged too,,most "How to's" are tooo complicated for me. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Sorry,getting off topic..go on ..


*sudo apt-get "WINE-LINK"* (interwebs required)
*input password*
let WINE INSTALL.
Put Starcraft in cd drive
Find either autostart, starcraft.exe, or setup.exe on disk. Setup.exe may be used if autostart.exe won't.

Double click preferred .exe
Install Starcraft.

I have gotten win to work with Photoshop, install 3ds MAX, and various other items.

For some reason, CIV II won't work in wine.


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Okay so quick question - we only have to send in a sample, right?

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Don't forget the Wubi option. Makes getting Linux on a Windows box Quakindude (dumbass) easy. And Wine runs excellently on it too. I know, the irony of using Wubi to get to Linux and then using an emulator to run Windows programs isn't lost on me. But to get someone introduced to Unbuntu 8.04 and still have a fall back to Windows shouldn't be over looked IMHO. And with Wubi, you can always do a full partition conversion to Linux when you've "grown up" enough to no longer lean on Windows.

Personally, I greatly enjoy using Wubi to get to Linux. It makes your system dual boot with a start up boot loader to choose between the two installs. And it allows you to use your newer Nvidia cards without all the driver setup hassle's of a clean Unbuntu install.

Something to think about.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:24 am 
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TheMurph wrote:
hackman2007 wrote:
Going to need more details on this.

What distribution specifically, what exactly do you want it to run, 32 bit or 64 bit, etc?


What's popular? What's the easiest way for a total Linux noob to install the alternate OS and use Wine to access common Windows programs? How do they do that?

I would assume 32-bit, given its popularity amongst most normal users.


As far as installing wine goes, 32 or 64 bit only matters so far as package choice. This would be a good little blurb for a sidebar.


Edit: Please ignore the next two paragraphs. Once again, I have posted without reading the entire thread. Mea culpa.

Do you want the article to include installing linux AND wine? That would make a very long or very shallow article .. and Will has covered the installation of a linux OS relatively recently.

The alternative would be to focus the article on the installation of wine and set-up of several popular games (ideally very different games so that the reader has an indication of what is necessary).

Will the article focus on wine (free) or Cedega (not free, but much more robust)? What about benchmarking? The same PC running a game under XP and wine / linux would provide interesting (though statistically weak) data.

Maybe I should just shut-up and polish my article on installing wireless cards using the ndiswrapper. ;)

Do we have a time-frame? I'm busy, but this is exciting enough that I can pull a sleepless night or two if it needs to be done this week. (Edit: Again, please ignore)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:17 pm 
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Quakindude wrote:
Don't forget the Wubi option. Makes getting Linux on a Windows box Quakindude (dumbass) easy. And Wine runs excellently on it too. I know, the irony of using Wubi to get to Linux and then using an emulator to run Windows programs isn't lost on me. But to get someone introduced to Unbuntu 8.04 and still have a fall back to Windows shouldn't be over looked IMHO. And with Wubi, you can always do a full partition conversion to Linux when you've "grown up" enough to no longer lean on Windows.

Personally, I greatly enjoy using Wubi to get to Linux. It makes your system dual boot with a start up boot loader to choose between the two installs. And it allows you to use your newer Nvidia cards without all the driver setup hassle's of a clean Unbuntu install.

Something to think about.


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Quakindude wrote:
Don't forget the Wubi option. Makes getting Linux on a Windows box Quakindude (dumbass) easy. And Wine runs excellently on it too. I know, the irony of using Wubi to get to Linux and then using an emulator to run Windows programs isn't lost on me. But to get someone introduced to Unbuntu 8.04 and still have a fall back to Windows shouldn't be over looked IMHO. And with Wubi, you can always do a full partition conversion to Linux when you've "grown up" enough to no longer lean on Windows.

Personally, I greatly enjoy using Wubi to get to Linux. It makes your system dual boot with a start up boot loader to choose between the two installs. And it allows you to use your newer Nvidia cards without all the driver setup hassle's of a clean Unbuntu install.

Something to think about.


Wubi's great, lets me run Ubuntu on my (uncrappy) desktop, instead of my (crappy) laptop (which I still do, just runs slower). And Being able to run x64 linux is great.


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