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 Post subject: Solaris 10 Now opensourced and FREE
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:39 am 
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Go to sun.com and look for the graphic button on the right side of the page
that reads "Free Download, Test Drive Solaris 10 OS." The permanent license
is free. I believe the "official" release is in January. There's a short
questionnaire to answer.


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free as in beer, not as in speech


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colby wrote:
free as in beer, not as in speech

Actually, you can get the source under their research license agreement (there are probably others too).

Freedom...
Beer < Solaris < GPL


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 Post subject: Re: Solaris 10 Now opensourced and FREE
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:15 am 
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Jawa78 wrote:
Go to sun.com and look for the graphic button on the right side of the page
that reads "Free Download, Test Drive Solaris 10 OS." The permanent license
is free. I believe the "official" release is in January. There's a short
questionnaire to answer.

Have you tried it? What do you think? I've got it running under windows via virtual pc for now. I'll do the real install in Jan when I have more time.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:32 pm 
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Gadget wrote:
colby wrote:
free as in beer, not as in speech

Actually, you can get the source under their research license agreement (there are probably others too).

Freedom...
Beer < Solaris < GPL


Yeah, but that still doesn't qualify as "free as in speech" ;) Your scale is pretty accurate (albeit crude, but this is the internet after all). Not to mention that they "plan" to release the source, but they've planned to release the source for Java too. ;)

Solaris 9 x86 was less than stellar, but was at least Solaris, so if you weren't familiar with the platform you could get used to it.


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Gadget wrote:
Freedom...
Beer < Solaris < GPL


Wait, does this mean Free beer is better than Free solaris or the GPL? :lol:

Actually, free beer would be awesome.


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TWBalls wrote:
Wait, does this mean Free beer is better than Free solaris or the GPL? :lol:

Actually, free beer would be awesome.


Only on the scale of Freeness, not on the scale of Desire ;)


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colby wrote:
Not to mention that they "plan" to release the source, but they've planned to release the source for Java too. ;)

Almost forgot - they're running into problems from Novell with opening Solaris. Not sure how serious Novell is, but it looks like they might already try to sue them over it.

Regarding Java, I don't think I've ever seen someone from Sun say they were going to OSS Java. When was this? Like Solaris, they do have source for Java available under their own license. According to one of the guys at school, Blackdown is basically built from it (I haven't verified - just something he says).

colby wrote:
Solaris 9 x86 was less than stellar, but was at least Solaris, so if you weren't familiar with the platform you could get used to it.

Yeah, the sysadmin at school says that Solaris 9 for Sun hardware was actually a decent upgrade - less memory and cpu utilization - but on Intel, it was a pretty big let down.


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Gadget wrote:
Regarding Java, I don't think I've ever seen someone from Sun say they were going to OSS Java. When was this? Like Solaris, they do have source for Java available under their own license. According to one of the guys at school, Blackdown is basically built from it (I haven't verified - just something he says).

Blackdown is built from Sun Java, I think many of the other JVMs are. (Blackdown's 1.4 Status Page) Blackdown's not GPL, either, you accept the Sun license when you install it.

Stories about OpenSourcing Java:
ZDNet AU Story
About IBM's Open Letter

Gadget wrote:
Yeah, the sysadmin at school says that Solaris 9 for Sun hardware was actually a decent upgrade - less memory and cpu utilization - but on Intel, it was a pretty big let down.

Pretty much. We'll have to see how Solaris 10 turns out.


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