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defkhan1
 Post subject: MS JVM Back in SP2?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:31 pm 
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I installed XP and am trying SP2 RC1 on it...

Logged right into Commport Chat W/O d/l'ing Sun's JVM...

Hmmmm.......

Do we think maybe now that MS and Sun made nice-nice, that we will get an MS JVM again?
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there was a big hub bub a month or two back that MS and Sun finally settled. Well MS payed like 2 billion to sun to shut them up. Part of the deal was MS could use their java VM again...

They're claiming to work together on all sorts of stuff now. But we will just have to wait and see.
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FYI - SP2 RC2 is out so you might want to check it out

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte ... eview.mspx
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Dexter wrote:
FYI - SP2 RC2 is out so you might want to check it out


Duh, I actually meant to say RC2 ;)

Just d/l'ed yesterday...
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I haven't heard of that being included again....sure it wasn't installed from before hand?? It's not like it's removed with the application of the SP
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I haven't heard of that being included again....sure it wasn't installed from before hand?? It's not like it's removed with the application of the SP


Did the origianl pre SP1 build of XP include the JVM?

If so then I have a bad memory and am barking up the wrong tree...

If not, this machine wasn't connected to the net until after SP2RC2 was installed...
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SP1 had it, SP1A did not.

Or you had to manually download it with your first instance of trying to use it on a fresh install (ended up being a pretty hefty download).

My thought is that it was always there and somehow got set back to a default when 2 was applied even though you had Sun controlling things when you installed that.
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My thought is that it was always there and somehow got set back to a default when 2 was applied even though you had Sun controlling things when you installed that.


Nah, fresh install, never installed Sun's JVM...installed fresh for my Action Pack NFR XP Pro CD, instaleld SP1 from Security update CD...then SP2 RC2, THEN connected to the internet to hit Windows Update...
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I shouuld clarify...was always there from somewhere...before you installed SP2.

Who knows, this could've been installed from SP2. I just haven't heard of that though.

I guess the true acid test would be to install just SP2 after a fresh install.
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furball146 wrote:
I guess the true acid test would be to install just SP2 after a fresh install.


Thats what he did...
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[quote="defkhan1"]I installed XP and am trying SP2 RC1 on it...

I just installed RC2 on my lappy an' it wanted to load
816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)...

So_ye@h?
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defkhan1 wrote:
Do we think maybe now that MS and Sun made nice-nice, that we will get an MS JVM again?


The MSJVM will be back. And updates will be forthcoming by year's end.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:11 pm 
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Logik! wrote:
defkhan1 wrote:
Do we think maybe now that MS and Sun made nice-nice, that we will get an MS JVM again?


The MSJVM will be back. And updates will be forthcoming by year's end.


Really? Where/when did you hear this?

For everyone else, if you're going to use the MS JVM, make sure you have the latest version - several viruses/trojans have been plauging the older versions for over a year now and many are still in the wild.

Double checking is easy... being a victim is a pita.

Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Larry>jview
Microsoft (R) Command-line Loader for Java  Version 5.00.3810
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1996-2000. All rights reserved.
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Logik! wrote:
defkhan1 wrote:
Do we think maybe now that MS and Sun made nice-nice, that we will get an MS JVM again?


The MSJVM will be back. And updates will be forthcoming by year's end.


You must have a pretty deep mole in MS! I've been to eWeek and about 10 different Java websites in the past two days (lotsa news with JavaOne going on) and I haven't seen a single announcement about a MS JVM.

If anything, I would expect MS to announce that they can now run java bytecode in .net - kind of like what the mainwin product does for
IL in j2ee.
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