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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:43 pm 
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I'm considering buying a laptop, a laptop that will play today's games like doom3 and half-life 2, but isn't a behemoth to bring around and doesn't only have like 1 hour for battery life. So I was looking at an Acer Travel Mate 8006Lmi when I suddenly found the laptop that looked ok. The Dell 9200 (2,0 Ghz, 1 gig ram, 128 ram ati rad 9700...). But I'm not sure how well it performs. I mean, I don't mind playing doom3 at 800x600, but I still want decent frame rates, lets say over 30. So I wondering if I can play good games with a Pentium M equipped laptop like the Dell Inspiron 9200 with a 128 video card or do I need a Dell XPS with P4 256 mb radeon 9800?!?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:49 pm 
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Unless someone has one of these laptops and can testify that they can run it I'm going to say no.

A friend of mine I play a lot of UT2K4 with has a laptop with a 1.4Ghz CPU and a Radeon Mobility 9700. To play UT2K4 he had to lower his resolutions to either 640x480 or 800x600 and turn off a lot of detail.

So I would say, if you want a descent framerate with the above mentioned games and either a native or at least fairly good resolution, no, a Pentium M + 9700 will not suffice.

I've got a shitty Powercolor 9700 Pro in my workstation tied to an Athlon MP 2600+ and that spanks my friend's 9700 Mobility + 1.4GHz.


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I just checked out some of Dell's offerings.

The 9200 seems to be what you're looking for if you're already leaning towards it, but to play those games I would highly recommend you upgrade to the 2.0Ghz Pentium M. Hopefully it'll give you the boost needed to turn some more of the details on within the above games while not sacraficing fps.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:12 am 
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Look at this: http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1735 ... 334,00.asp

Its just interesting because we can see that the Dell Inspiron P4M 2.0 Ghz is very close to the Gateway 675XL P4 3.4 Ghz, with the same videocard. With fps like that (Doom3), I don't think itll be any fun at all. But I'm still wondering how much I would get if the resolution was put to 800 x 600. Would I get a constant -over- 30 fps?!

I could look the other way and buy the Clevo D900T I've seen around this forum, which has a 6800 Go. But then again, this would cost be 2x more, (Voodoo 790 was at like, 6800$ CAN $$$). I just want something affordable, still fast and responsive, with somewhat good battery life..


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Jynxter wrote:
But I'm still wondering how much I would get if the resolution was put to 800 x 600. Would I get a constant -over- 30 fps?!


That might work, but it would also look terrible because the further you lower your laptop's resolution away from it's native resolution, the worse it looks because of the interpolation.

You might also consider overclocking the 9700 to get the game a bit more playable. When Neverwinter Nights came out I needed to bump my Rage 128 Mobility by 10 to 15mhz to make it flow a bit better. You don't have to keep it overclocked all the time, just when you're playing the game.

Jynxter wrote:
I could look the other way and buy the Clevo D900T I've seen around this forum, which has a 6800 Go. But then again, this would cost be 2x more, (Voodoo 790 was at like, 6800$ CAN $$$). I just want something affordable, still fast and responsive, with somewhat good battery life..


It doesn't sound like the Clevo D900T fits your needs but keep in mind thats not the only model they sell. The only reason I love it so much, is because I love performace, tons of integrated devices, and 99.999% of the time I run my laptop plugged into the wall.

If you don't need the laptop immediately, I would wait and see if Dell starts shipping the 9200 with a 9800 Mobility.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:23 pm 
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You don't know how much research I've been through and I still don't know which laptop to get... It seems I'm getting closer to the perfect laptop... but still.. heh.

I was looking at the benchmarks of the Dell XPS http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1735 ... 411,00.asp and the Dell 9200 (http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1735 ... 334,00.asp) and there doesnt seem to be much of a difference between the 2 scores on the 3dMark (500 diff.). Is this much of a difference? It's too bad they dont benchmark Doom3 with the XPS. I read somewhere that the 2Ghz Pentium M is almost as good at a P4 3.0Ghz...

Let's say I take the Dell Inspiron 9200. I put 1 gig of ram and I take the 2.0 Ghz processor. Is the card the only problem for the games?! Or is the processor bringing the fps down too? Too many questions, too many options argg lol. At first I was a AMD and Geforce loyal guy, but then I heard that AMD mobile processors weren't as good as Pentium M, and Radeon owned the mobile section...

I know I'm just throwing my comments everywhere but... another question. Let's say I lower the resolution from the native reso. of my laptop. Will the text look all crippled? Is it better to get a lower resolution laptop so I can get it down to 800 x 600 to play games? :p I heard laptops had reso. up to 1900x 1200 or something... There's no way i could even run quake at that reso hah.

Anyhow... I'll continu looking for a laptop that strikes balance between Power, gaming performance and price :D


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