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 Post subject: ITT Or Certs?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:38 pm 
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HI, Need some advice here.

I am struggling in the community college I am in right now and I want to go to a school where my focus is computers. I want to maintain build and fix networks (I also want to fix computers, like computer repair). I have looked into ITT Tech and there schools get horrible reviews. Do you think getting strictly certs are the way to go? Will I be able to find a job without a degree with only certs?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:00 am 
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This question has been addressed at length in various threads in this folder.

ITT ... no.


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Jipstyle wrote:
This question has been addressed at length in various threads in this folder.

ITT ... no.


Okay, then certificates only are the way to go?


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Certs are good but remember, you need some hands on experiance. Buy the equipment you will need to learn on.
I must also say that with all the people that have flooded the market in the last 15 years ( many where collage students that where told IT was the way to go) you will be hard pressed to move up in the IT field even if you are able to get in some how. I have been in the field for over 17 years and find my lack of a Collage degree keeps me from advacing against other with a degree. My company pays me well because I am pretty good and very broad ( I do desktop, telecom, and network) but if you want to go to another company, they are not wild about matching your pay without knowing how good you are. It is that mentality that if Collage could train the kid to learn a wide range of information, I can teach this kid also.
In summary, get a degree, if not then get certs but practice at home so you are not the person that has a CCNA but when asked to plug in the console port you do not have to ask the interviewer, "where's the port?" LOL

Good luck my friend.


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 Post subject: Re: ITT Or Certs?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:01 am 
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1: Stick with the community college. Yes, it's a pain in the balls. The degree will make it worthwhile later.

2: Avoid ITT. The only real education you get is in how to go deeply in debt for a worthless degree.

3: Certs are a foot in the front door. Degrees are a foot in the door to an upper-echelon job (providing you are properly motivated).


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100k for 4 years at ITT tech is a giant waste of money when you can spend 10k and get your 4 year degree from another school and it works just the same, stick with it and it will pay off.


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 Post subject: My decision
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:14 pm 
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Well, I decided to get my associates in Computer Information Systems - Microcomputer Support Technician. I hope this degree will get me somewhere. Let me know what you think... (look at page 3 of of PDF file)

http://schoolcraft.edu/pdfs/guides/prog ... ystems.pdf


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Nate wrote:
100k for 4 years at ITT tech is a giant waste of money when you can spend 10k and get your 4 year degree from another school and it works just the same, stick with it and it will pay off.


Note: Just to be fair. It's not $100K for 4 years at ITT. It's about $72K.

Also, it's a bit more than $10K for a 4 year degree at most schools.

Figure around $100 per credit hour per tuition. And around 60 credit hours a year.

Then add book and lab fees on top of that.


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I go to New England Institute of Technology it's ~$15K a year. You get your Bachelor's in 3 years, instead of 4, and your Associates in a year and a half. I'm 4 months from my Associates. I will be receiving my Associates in Networking and my Bachelors in Network Engineering.

It's roughly ~$45K + books by the end.


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Yes, but those schools that have labs associated with courses DO count towards working experience....

Knowing that, don't knock ITT or DeVry based on wasted money...those labs do count for something other than another credit hour or so...


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