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 Post subject: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:58 am 
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I have never built a computer before. Here is my list of parts. I will need to buy a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I do play D3 and other games, trying to stay under $1000 (not including monitor, etc. I'm about $847.77 with blue ray optical drive. I picked that ram because it was on the motherboards compatible list, and Patriot is a name I know, and that part # only came in a set of 3 4gb each that I could find. I don't think I need 12gb. What RAM names do you guys trust and use.

Again, thank you for your help, and looking forward to your opinions and help.

Case- Apevia X-DREAMER3-GN X-Dreamer 3 Green ATX Mid Tower $75.04

PSU- Apevia ATX-WA750W Warlock 750-Watt ATX Power Supply - SLI and Crossfire Ready, 135mm Fan, Clear Sides $75.88 after $10.00 Mail-in

GPU- 01G-P3-1464-KR NEW EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX560 SE 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Video Card $136.90

MotherBoard- GIGABYTE GA-H77M-D3H Motherboard - ATX, Intel H77 Express Chipset, DDR3, USB 3.0, RJ-45, HDMI, DVI-D, SATA 6Gb/s, AMD CrossFireX, RAID $94.99

CPU- Intel Core i5-3550 BX806237i53550 Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.30GHz (3.70GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Retail $209.99

Optical Drive- Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB 24x DVDRW Drive - 24x, SATA, Black, OEM $17.99
OR Sony Optiarc BD-5300S-03 Internal 12x Blu-ray Burner Drive - 12x, SATA, Black, OEM $79.99

Hard Drive- Western Digital WD10EALX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 1TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 32MB $94.99

Updated RAM, Thx Rico and Wiked_Smart
Ram- Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K2/8G $48.99


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:32 pm 
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PC_Newb wrote:
Case- Apevia X-DREAMER3-GN X-Dreamer 3 Green ATX Mid Tower $75.04

PSU- Apevia ATX-WA750W Warlock 750-Watt ATX Power Supply - SLI and Crossfire Ready, 135mm Fan, Clear Sides $75.88 after $10.00 Mail-in


Probably would not be my choice for Case / PSU combo - have a look at one of these cases, much better quality / cooling capacity:

IN WIN MANA137 $45 + $6 shipping
Antec Gaming Series One $50 + $8 shipping
IN WIN MANA134 $50 + $6 shipping
ZALMAN Z9 $55 + $4 shipping
Rosewill FUTURE Gaming (w/ 4 x fans) $55 + $5 shipping
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $60 + $5 shipping

Since the eXtreme PSU calc puts you at a mere 350W recommended so a 430W will do, or a 520W for extended-life / upgrades. Either of these will be a decent choice:

Rosewill Green Series RG430-S12 $45 + $2 shipping
COOLER MASTER GX 450W $45 + $4 shipping
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 $45 + $2
Rosewill Green Series RG530-S12 530W $50 + $4 shipping
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W $60 free shipping!
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W $60 + $4 shipping
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W $60 + $10 shipping
SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W $70 + $6 shipping

If it were my build, I would probably go with either Rosewill 630W and up the GPU to a 560 ti-448, or maybe the Rosewill 530W and a HD 7850.

For the mem, yes triple is not even supported on that board and 12Gb is overkill so just get a decent 8gb/2x4gb kit (all are 1.5v DDR-1600 CL9):

Patriot Signature 8GB $44
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB $45
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB $47
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB $47
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB $47
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB $47
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB $48
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB $50
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB LP $50

If I had to pick one of each... tough choice can't go wrong with any of the above :mrgreen: Everything else looks in order.

Oh, the keyboard/mouse... try the Logitech G110 and G500 good stuff.



hope this gives you some ideas - cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:31 am 
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I highly recommend changing the PSU to a more reliable brand Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic, OCZ, or even Antec would be better than what you have take a look and see if there is one that will fit the bill for you any where from a 500W to 650W would be fine.
Look for dual channel memory your CPU will not support triple channel memory.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:25 am 
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I already ordered the case and PSU, before I thought of joining this fourm. Hopefully I havn't already messed up this build before I started.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:10 am 
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As far as the case goes most cases will last you a while but its the extras on the case and the build quality that set them apart from the rest. if you like the case then no harm no foul. When it come to PSUs they are kinda important you can have power dips or spikes on voltage rails, you could have regulators go out, there can be any number of things that could happen. I will be the first to admit that you can skimp on some things when it comes to a computer but for me the PSU and the motherboard you should get ones that are good quality and the PSU specifically is the life blood of the computer. you can keep what you have if you would like since I don't know your situation but when you get a opportunity I would replace it. you could still keep the other one for a back up if you want. It is your call as to what to do with the PSU but going forward I think you will be good on the other components that you have chosen.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:13 am 
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PC_Newb wrote:
I already ordered the case and PSU, before I thought of joining this fourm. Hopefully I havn't already messed up this build before I started.


One thing about apevia units I have experienced, they are rated for peak watts / literally double what they can actually handle (and be stable). Since it's a 750w and your build will only be 350w or less it should work. The problem hits once you exceed the 50% wattage the voltages get a bit crazy so it is possible to damage your hardware if it decides to blow out - don't think you will be in that scenario with your current setup.

If possible return it :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:57 am 
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Last thing I want to do is damage any components, and limit myself to future upgrades because of my PSU. Once the PSU gets here I'll look into returning it. I bought it from TigerDirect. I am going to go with the Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W. Will I be able to use the Rosewell PSU in the Apevia case correct? <--Since they both are ATX? Thanks again for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:19 pm 
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Good choice - yes it will work with that case no problem.

Check out the Hardware Secrets RG630-S12 review it was a great performer.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:51 am 
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I'm not a fan of rosewill but that is me I think they are ok but that is about it. Will it work? Yes it will and should be decent do they use quality internals? No, but for the money it will do. Overall they aren't horrible.
Personally a OCZ, Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic would be my choice but if the money matters go with what you want, it will get the job done.
here is two that are close to the price of the Rosewill and should be great products.
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $79.99
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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply $79.99-10%-$10.00MIR=$61.99
Just some thoughts.
The PSUs are standard ATX sizing so no issues there.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:01 am 
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Well Rosewill only had a couple of good models - remember the RP500-2? Those were great, when they were on sale for like $45 ish + rebate I think I went through about a dozen or so. that is the only other Rosewill model I used besides the Green RG's, others were meh, like the "stallion" models lol... Even the "performance" models were ATNG just like the RGs, but they were overrated and overpriced - another pass. At least they got it right with the RGs :lol:

Same with CoolerMaster, the Elite and Xtreme models - I usually pass. The Elite 460 was at best a good 400w and the Xtreme 500 was ok but the Xtreme 600 was the same model w/ a different label lol... The GX are good, not sure about the other RS series maybe ok but confusion with Xtreme models :x


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:37 am 
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After reading reviews, and again great advice from you guys I went with the CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply. I shipped the 750w Warlock PSU back today, and the Apevia X-DREAMER3-GN X-Dreamer 3 Green ATX Mid Tower showed up yesterday. I'll keep you posted as parts come in, and how the build is going. Thanks again for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:12 pm 
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Don't forget the MIR form its $10 at least.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with 1st computer build
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:22 pm 
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Is it worth spending an extra $35 dollars for a CPU cooler upgrade? Like the - Cooler Master GeminII S524 Cooling Fan/Heatsink


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:13 am 
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It really depends if you will be OCing or not if you will be or think you will be go for a CM hyper 212 Evo it give the best bang for the buck. If you don't think you will be OCing then stock will do.


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