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 Post subject: [CrazyIdea] Internal-External USB drive
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:00 am 
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i dunno just seemed liek a viable idea for me since i have so many external drives.

How viable would it be to mount a external USB drive in say a 5.25 slot and make it a "internal" drive to a new system?


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very viable, it just wouldn't be very fast- as long as it only draws power from the USB bus it's be easy, just get a USB controller card with an internal USB connection and plug it in.
it is kind of an odd idea.


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very viable, it just wouldn't be very fast- as long as it only draws power from the USB bus it's be easy, just get a USB controller card with an internal USB connection and plug it in.
it is kind of an odd idea.


i figured it would be a way to use my piles of external hdds when i eventully set up my home server


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you could just use them externally too. :roll:


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Spartacus wrote:
you could just use them externally too. :roll:


yeah but their kinda old capacities and dont want to confuse them with the new gen, 80 GB, 260 GB, 300 GB...and the new one which is 1 TB.

and i will probably get more before i have my tower built so i kinda want them out of the way but still used for something useful.

("A 80 GB PAgefile are you crazy!" "Why yes...yes i am")


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on that note one is a free agent to go which uses a mini USB to dual USB (one usb for power/data and the other for just data)

If i have internal USB ports in my case could i just plug the Free Agent into 2 of them or would that present problems?


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Why not just crack them open, and use the drives with your computer's internal SATA or IDE ports? That would be MUCH faster than USB.


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avanish11 wrote:
Why not just crack them open, and use the drives with your computer's internal SATA or IDE ports? That would be MUCH faster than USB.


cause i'm...not QUITE ready to soder on new PCBs to my drives...just yet...

also i don't have a soddering iron.


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nekollx wrote:
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Why not just crack them open, and use the drives with your computer's internal SATA or IDE ports? That would be MUCH faster than USB.


cause i'm...not QUITE ready to soder on new PCBs to my drives...just yet...

also i don't have a soddering iron.


IIRC, most newer external drives have standard hard drives inside, with a SATA to USB converter tucked inside.


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Correct. The drive inside the external case, is a standard drive.

Technically, we need to worry about the Firmware on the drive. While the drive may be exactly the same as any other drive, the firmware may only work with the external's controller in the enclosure. If Windows will recognize it once gutted, it's flashable with standard firmware.


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Have you every heard of hotswap server bays. Those are basically what you are asking for.


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NukeULater wrote:
Have you every heard of hotswap server bays. Those are basically what you are asking for.
It will fit, but will it work?

Again, these may be standard drives, but with very different firmware. And server bays don't cure what a S/ATA cable can already attempt to do without being complicated.


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all good ideas...but stupid question...

The FreeAgent ToGo and WD Passport seem to be uni body designs, how would I "crack them open"


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nekollx wrote:
all good ideas...but stupid question...

The FreeAgent ToGo and WD Passport seem to be uni body designs, how would I "crack them open"


they arent uni-body. you just have to look closely on the edges and use a thin screw driver to seperate the two halves.


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ok good ideas, but what if i want to use it as a OS drive.

Now i'm just spinning crazy talk here but lets say i had this

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/e ... lash_drive

or you know a 32 or 64 GB thumb drive could i plug it (or one of my externals) into a internal usb header and use it as a boot drive?


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nekollx wrote:
ok good ideas, but what if i want to use it as a OS drive.

Now i'm just spinning crazy talk here but lets say i had this

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/e ... lash_drive

or you know a 32 or 64 GB thumb drive could i plug it (or one of my externals) into a internal usb header and use it as a boot drive?


from what i understan... yes but only for linux. but you wont be able to use the whole thing and its slow as hell.


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Ok that thing is going to be at the very least $500. Get a nice SSD for that price.


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avanish11 wrote:
Ok that thing is going to be at the very least $500. Get a nice SSD for that price.


three hundred and ninety dollars is $500? Is this that new math i keep hearing about.

Regardless, i was just mising on using a usb thumb drive someone may already own plugged into a internal usb port.


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