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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:54 pm 
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I've been having this problem for close to a month, it began without warning. Whenever I start my computer up, it is an Alienware laptop, everything is VERY slow. If I open an image file in Windows Picture Viewer the result is a message saying "Generating preview...". If I open IE it will not load any websites, though it does open. Winamp, however, will load and play music. Another oddity, I had ICQ turning on with start-up and thought that may be the reason because it was delayed. I uninstalled and rebooted but it got me nowhere. Anyone know what this might be?

I forgot to add, all the above problem stop after about 3-4 minutes, which makes it even stranger. After that time everything works fine and I get no errrors on start-up. I also recently, because of a bad SP2 install, did a system recovery chkdsk /r/f and it said it found and fixed a few things, but it didn't help this at all.

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Intel P4 2.8Ghz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:04 pm 
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it could be that your hard drive is almost full. windows bogs down when there's about 5gb left of space in your hard drive.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:00 pm 
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Can't be. The HD is 55GB (my mistake before) and I am only using 12.5 of that. I also defrag frequently.


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hmm... did this problem first occur after you installed SP2? cause im hearing lots of problems with it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:16 pm 
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did you check to see if any processes were hogging your cpu?


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dx11101 wrote:
did you check to see if any processes were hogging your cpu?


yea i forgot to mention that. did you install any big programs lately that starts when windows starts?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:39 pm 
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I noticed this 2-3 weeks before installing SP2 and I really haven't installed any programs that I could say are big. If I had then they are already uninstalled.

Looking at my processes, though I don't know which start up with the computer, these are the ones that jump out and smack me for one reason or another:

- 5 instances of "svchost.exe" (one using 19,640K mem, rest around 3,000K) and they are under 3 different "User Name" catagories. Three being in the same catagory.

- avgserv.exe, I have the AVG control panel turned off, why would this be running? Unless this is something else.

- System Idle Process, using 99 of the CPU right now but only 20k memory. Anyone know what this is?

That being said, I am no good with Windows Task Manager and hope I am answering the questions right, if not then let me know. Though that Idle Process says "99", the performance tab shows 0-3% of my CPU being used at the same time.


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sounds normal to me

System idle process is suppose to show that when your cpu isnt doing anything


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dx11101 wrote:
sounds normal to me

System idle process is suppose to show that when your cpu isnt doing anything


yep, yep.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:36 pm 
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This is just weird. I rebooted 3 times and checked processes. I saw the list move a little but nothing was using more than 2% of the processor each time. I did notice that I have a yellow exclamation next to "Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver" in the device manager and it says this in the properties window:

Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)

That did occur after uninstalling SP2 and I don't know where to get the driver, maybe it is related?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:25 pm 
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umm, try reinstalling SP2, lol.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:56 pm 
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this is why i love those little cd's that come with pre-made rigs. altho, i only liek to use it as a last resort


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:36 am 
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Praey wrote:
I noticed this 2-3 weeks before installing SP2 and I really haven't installed any programs that I could say are big. If I had then they are already uninstalled.

Looking at my processes, though I don't know which start up with the computer, these are the ones that jump out and smack me for one reason or another:

- 5 instances of "svchost.exe" (one using 19,640K mem, rest around 3,000K) and they are under 3 different "User Name" catagories. Three being in the same catagory.

- avgserv.exe, I have the AVG control panel turned off, why would this be running? Unless this is something else.

- System Idle Process, using 99 of the CPU right now but only 20k memory. Anyone know what this is?

That being said, I am no good with Windows Task Manager and hope I am answering the questions right, if not then let me know. Though that Idle Process says "99", the performance tab shows 0-3% of my CPU being used at the same time.


Click on Start, Run, and type in "msconfig" without "". Then click the startup tab and see all you have set running at startup. Could be some spyware hiding at startup. Many of these be removed from the registry without hurting anything.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:56 am 
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in addition to running msconfig, run spybot or ad aware too, i hav e both because they each find things the other doesnt


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:44 am 
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I dont have spybot, I'll grab that today. I am going to be out most of the day so I'll follow up on this post later this evening.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:35 am 
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it sounds like windows just decided to freak out on you...
The delf destruct date must have been past.

But seriously,
It just sounds like its loading programs in the frist few minutes of boot. Mine does that. Look at the HD LED on ur case... its probly lit up. this just means its loading all those lil system services and lil proggies you forgot about that sit in the system tray going "wtf??? when is he going to use us????"

Tyr uninstalling progs that start up at boot, or just changing them so they dont start till you need them.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:13 pm 
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Praey wrote:
I dont have spybot, I'll grab that today. I am going to be out most of the day so I'll follow up on this post later this evening.

Thanks.


Spy Sweeper is good also, but only for limited uses unless you want to subscribe for updates. They give you one free update.

You can get it a www.webroot.com and it finds things ad-aware and spybot both miss.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:24 pm 
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I downloaded Spybot and Spysweeper and both found things the other didn't but nothing that fixed the problem. I guess there really isn't anything else I can do and since I'm not getting errors I have to assume this is due to loading programs. I will check what programs are going when the computer starts but besides that I don't think anything more can be done.


Thanks for the assistance, all.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:26 am 
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Praey wrote:
I downloaded Spybot and Spysweeper and both found things the other didn't but nothing that fixed the problem. I guess there really isn't anything else I can do and since I'm not getting errors I have to assume this is due to loading programs. I will check what programs are going when the computer starts but besides that I don't think anything more can be done.


Thanks for the assistance, all.


Go and scan with Housecall (http://housecall.trendmicro.com) for virii.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:58 pm 
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i reformat and reinstall about every 20-40 days.....but i also have all my program installs on a seprate HDD.

for some reason my 650Mhz athlon PC is faster than most of my friends HP/Compaq (current)crap boxes


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