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I don't have access to the onboard socket that people can plug into to tell them the temp of their chip on die.

I can't get the temp sensor obviously onto the chip from my pc fan/temp monitor my computer has.

Best I can do is I can stick the temp sensor onto the fan for the heatsink or the heatsink itself.

What I need to know is what should the proper temps be if I stick the temp sensor onto the fan for the heatsink?? What should the temps be if I stick it directly onto the heatsink?

What do you mean "don't have access to onboard socket"? What exactly do you have anyhow? System specs wise?

And temps can differ from cpu to cpu, hsf to hsf. Need to know the above info. I'm fairly certain that since P4's, all cpu's come with internal temp sensors. You can use the program CPUID hardware monitor to see if there are any readings it can capture.

Got excited there for a second....ran CPUID and no where does it list any temps for anything.

Don't worry about specifics, generally, what are the preferred temps for a CPU lowest and highest temps? Now take into consideration I don't have access directly to the CPU, so what would be the ideal temps if I attached a sensor to either the heatsink or fan on the heatsink???

very very subjective without specifics of the cpu, heat sink, system cooling, case and sensor placement.

And what do you mean you don't have access directly to the cpu? If you have access to the case and put a temp probe in there.. you have access...

My cpu like most cpu's has a huge heatsink planted on top of it so, I can't access it directly without removing it.

Can someone please post the general good temps and bad temps for the common cpu in the common pc??? If I had to post a temp sensor NOT on the cpu but on the heatsink, how much of a difference can one expect??

Again... its subjective... what defines "common" cpu and what defines "common" as a pc?

I find it circumstantial to see i5 and i7 cpu's since I commonly come into contact with other cultured commoners who commonly commute and connect to a casual community in a centralized and controlled set of coordinates in a close country to casually cavort common computer contests, but that conjecture doesn't completely confer a conclusive canvas of all citizens within a copious conglomerate, now does it?


Still need specifics since not all cpu's are made the same with the same tolerances to heat or use the same amount of energy. 80C might be a normal operating temp on some, while it would kill others. And you will expect to see a huge difference in temps from the cpu to the heatsink. It's just that, it removes the heat from the cpu and cools it effectively; cool to touch in most cases even when the cpu is at 80C. Aluminum and Copper (what most heatsinks are made from) disperse heat very well and very fast given the system can remove the said heat from the case effectively.

The avg temp for a P3 is diff from a P4, diff from an AMD Bulldozer, diff from a 1156, diff from a 1155, diff from......
And the list goes on. To make that even more difficult is this: what cooler do you have mounted, in what case, how many fans, what size fans, is the cpu overclocked.
If you tell us what cpu/motherboard combo and some of the other items I've listed we can give you some intelligent answers.
If you don't tell us we can't. It is as simple as that.

You know.....I think you people have been on these forums so long you actually have become computers yourselves. You've lost your senses, a good guess, hunches......all I wanted was a minimum and a maximum. Like, regardless of the system you have if you see THIS temp, shut it down. If you are struggling with the answer to this simple question, I seriously think you need to unplug and get laid.

I love these forums and the help I have received, don't mean to say this in a bad way at all but, re-read your posts and you'll see for yourselves I am right.

Thank you for taking the time and trying to help, got my answer at a different forum. Take care.

First off all, I get laid quite often thank you very much. I don't overly tout my geek pride in the real world as I cover it up with motorcycles, racing, clubbing (not seals mind you) and sporting activities. Best shape in my life.

Second, your "simple" question still lacked any real sense of meaning with no specifics for us to guide you on to a very specific topic. 100C max is what most normal x86 CPU's max thermal ratings are, sometimes it might be 90C and with AMD's new bulldozer, that's actually 63C so "normal" is relative to each product.

Then you asked about the temps of the heatsink then you provide us no information of what heatsink you have, the material its made from or again the cpu it's suppose to cool. Different sized heatsinks and even different designs will have all different ratings in how much heat wattage it can disperse efficiently while keeping the cpu in proper operating temps. And you can go even further into how much cooling you have in your case and the ambient temp of the room as that plays a huge factor; even when its only a 1C difference.

If you are this resistant or not knowledgeable about your system then we are more than happy to help, but seriously, YOU need to back away from the computer and not touch it.


That said, I'm glad someone was able to put up with your vague question. Good luck and god speed; if you need help, next time, try not to insult us when we are trying to actually help you.

you get this from someone that has been building computers for years, knows almost everything, but is so lazy he cant reach for a button to turn something on. even his car stereo has a remote, its just so far to reach. he has so much knowledge that more than half his posts are in the free clinic.

Please... remote control for your car stereo? that's so 2004... It's all about voice activation baby!

"Siri, play some Dubstep"
"Of course Dave"

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lol

are you wubbing one off?

I'm wubbing it at 22Hz @ 110 dBa sucka... so slow, so deep but yet so powerful... it compels bowl movements. It's so powerful, I have grenades falling off my shelf two rooms over; landing into a stack of Gatorades... So now I call the drink Gatonades.

Oh, you want a SIMPLE answer. Okay then, that's real easy. If it gets hot enough to burn up, then it's too hot and it is time to turn it off. If you can smell smoke, it's probably time to shut it off. If it shuts down by itself...............
Is that simple enough for you?
The P4 is known to run hot. With a P4 and a stock cooler I wouldn't be surprised to see temps in the high 80's C or even into the low 90's under load.
The 1155 is known to NOT run even close to that temp under load. With a socket 1155 and a stock cooler I would want to shut it down before it got to the high 80's C.
That's why we need more info than you have been forthcoming with to give you an answer on what you are looking for. And the above also changes if you are talking laptops.
Oh, yeah and I haven't been laid in a while. I can give you a reason for that if you really want. It's simple too.

Solution:

Replace CPU with WUB... Dance till your heart explodes.

I'd be very leery of a forum that gave me an answer without knowing the processor I have.

We are a very technical bunch here. We don't give guesses. That's for amateurs and people who aren't informed.

There is no minimum temp unless you're playing with nitrogen. See, that's something we would need to know.

If you want a generalized maximum, then use 60°C. Since no one knows your processor, and frankly, I think it's absolutely ridiculous you won't provide that simple answer, then that's the safest answer I'm willing to give. That, however, misinforms you and anyone else who would read this thread in the future. You may decide at some future date to overclock your machine. Do you REALLY want a guesstimate about that highest temp now? Because if you go off of 60°C, you won't be overclocking very far. If someone told you 100°C on another forum, your CPU isn't going to make it very long, if at all.

So stop being so ambiguous about what processor you have. It's a more simple question than what your original question is and yet, you get all butt hurt over people not wanting to answer YOUR question. For the length of time you've been a member here, you SHOULD know better than to use generalized estimates when it comes to computer components.

Well put, but also, OP asked what the expected temp would be on the heatsink using an aftermarket prob, leaving me with the impression that his CPU is older than a Core 2 Duo since his CPU doesn't have a built-in temp sensor(s).

I've never seen a heat sink hit 60C, the heat would radiate too quickly to reach that high unless ambient room temp is that of a desert (or in some cases a hot chocolate dessert. :p). Although now that I think about it, those older fermi gpu's can get pretty hot to cook an egg. Hehe.

And seriously? LN? that'd kiddy stuff, gotta do LHe... Go big or go home.

Then hook it up to a mini black hole. All the heat would be sucked out of it so fast that it would never over heat no matter how high you OC the thing.
Just sayin'.

I actually tried the multi-universe matter bridge to transfer the heat energy from our plane of existence to other alternate realities, but I had to stop the experiment because I kept getting Rodney McKay's teleporting into my gaming room.

Believe me, having a smart Canadian scientist re-materializing while I play BF3 is definitely a distraction, specially when he corrects me on the proper usage of using macros in WOW... Ok buddy, I get it. Your a Nerd, I'm a Nerd, but I don't play WOW anymore. I donno what alternate universe you play it, but WOW is old... SWTOR is where its at!

You'd think him coming in from another universe and from another galaxy would know this.

I wish he had posted the forum he got his answer at so I would know where NOT to go. Glad to see you guys are in this universe and not his.