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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:02 am 
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Hey guys, I am upgrading my dual core with a quadcore and I wanted to know about cooling. This is the CPU I am getting

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103674

I always used stock fan/heatsinks that came with my CPU's and I am wondering if its different for quadcore cpus. I have a very cool room, air conditioner is running at 65 degrees non stop and I have 2 big room fans one of which is on the computer 24/7. Surfice to say, my room is very cold all the time. I do have 2 case fans, and I am running 2x 8800 gts 640mb in SLI. Right now the temp in my computer is 57 degrees Celsius with stock heatsink/fan on my dual core amd 5600+ I really can't afford to buy a custom fan I am already at my budgets breaking point with that and a new motherboard, will I be ok? I plan on playing Aion a mmorpg so it will stress the cpu right?


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if your not overclocking then stock will be fine

just out of curiosity, what mobo are you planning on getting?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:22 am 
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Gailim wrote:
if your not overclocking then stock will be fine

just out of curiosity, what mobo are you planning on getting?


Well, my budget is 400 so I am getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131383


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this is rather off-topic, but since Gailim already answered your cooling question, I'm going to say that that mobo isn't too great of an idea. If you're going to trade out the mobo and CPU, then I'd recommend getting AM3+DDR3, because it's likely that future AMD CPU's will support AM3 and you'll be able to just drop a faster CPU in in the future, but you won't be able to do that with an AM2+ (DDR2) setup, since they'll only have a DDR3 controller.
I'd recommend you get this SLi supported mobo, cheaper and better, and that leaves you with plenty of room in your budget for 4GB of DDR3.


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this is rather off-topic, but since Gailim already answered your cooling question, I'm going to say that that mobo isn't too great of an idea. If you're going to trade out the mobo and CPU, then I'd recommend getting AM3+DDR3, because it's likely that future AMD CPU's will support AM3 and you'll be able to just drop a faster CPU in in the future, but you won't be able to do that with an AM2+ (DDR2) setup, since they'll only have a DDR3 controller.
I'd recommend you get this SLi supported mobo, cheaper and better, and that leaves you with plenty of room in your budget for 4GB of DDR3.


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I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


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Logikbomb wrote:
I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


man you got reemed, 4GB of DDR2 800 goes for $45 these days, can you return it?

spart hit on what I was getting at, there is no reason to go AM2+ anymore

in fact what I was going to suggest was the i5 750 and a nice P55 board.


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Gailim wrote:
Logikbomb wrote:
I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


man you got reemed, 4GB of DDR2 800 goes for $45 these days, can you return it?

spart hit on what I was getting at, there is no reason to go AM2+ anymore

in fact what I was going to suggest was the i5 750 and a nice P55 board.

That's another option- probably better then what I suggested- if you can return that DDR2, then you're peachy. If not, you just got totally ripped off.
Also, There are no AM3 mobos with DDR2. Period. AM3's specifcation is DDR3 only. The reason those say AM3 is because they're actually AM2+, but are compatible with Phenom IIs, so they're pitched as AM3. Welcome to the world of business.


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Logikbomb wrote:
Well, my budget is 400


If you have $400 dollars to spend, you are better off with a core i5.


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Spartacus wrote:
Gailim wrote:
Logikbomb wrote:
I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


man you got reemed, 4GB of DDR2 800 goes for $45 these days, can you return it?

spart hit on what I was getting at, there is no reason to go AM2+ anymore

in fact what I was going to suggest was the i5 750 and a nice P55 board.

That's another option- probably better then what I suggested- if you can return that DDR2, then you're peachy. If not, you just got totally ripped off.
Also, There are no AM3 mobos with DDR2. Period. AM3's specifcation is DDR3 only. The reason those say AM3 is because they're actually AM2+, but are compatible with Phenom IIs, so they're pitched as AM3. Welcome to the world of business.


I got the memory from newegg, i can not return it. I dont care about true AM3 or whatever, as long as it takes that quadcore thats 150% faster then my dual core amd 5600+ I am a happy man. I don't care too much about memory. My friend went from 4gb 800mhz to 6gb 1066mhz and he didnt know any difference at all. Memory is memory. It's not important to me. As long as the mobo will take my 800mhz I am a very happy person because im getting a new up to date motherboard that is ready for improvements and a top of the line amd quadcore. The reason the memory cost me 100 dollars is because i always ship computer parts with fedex next day air. You would be a fool to ship ups.


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Logikbomb wrote:
Spartacus wrote:
Gailim wrote:
Logikbomb wrote:
I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


man you got reemed, 4GB of DDR2 800 goes for $45 these days, can you return it?

spart hit on what I was getting at, there is no reason to go AM2+ anymore

in fact what I was going to suggest was the i5 750 and a nice P55 board.

That's another option- probably better then what I suggested- if you can return that DDR2, then you're peachy. If not, you just got totally ripped off.
Also, There are no AM3 mobos with DDR2. Period. AM3's specifcation is DDR3 only. The reason those say AM3 is because they're actually AM2+, but are compatible with Phenom IIs, so they're pitched as AM3. Welcome to the world of business.


I got the memory from newegg, i can not return it. I dont care about true AM3 or whatever, as long as it takes that quadcore thats 150% faster then my dual core amd 5600+ I am a happy man. I don't care too much about memory. My friend went from 4gb 800mhz to 6gb 1066mhz and he didnt know any difference at all. Memory is memory. It's not important to me. As long as the mobo will take my 800mhz I am a very happy person because im getting a new up to date motherboard that is ready for improvements and a top of the line amd quadcore. The reason the memory cost me 100 dollars is because i always ship computer parts with fedex next day air. You would be a fool to ship ups.


the problem is that your mobo is done after the current generation of Phenom 2's. with an AM3 or better yet, an 1156 board you would be set for the next few years. for the money you spent on CPU+Mobo, you could have had a P55 and Core i5 setup that is 95% as fast as a 1366 i7 setup. significantly faster than even the fastest Phenom 2

and if you got your ram from newegg you absolutely can return it


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Gailim wrote:
Logikbomb wrote:
Spartacus wrote:
Gailim wrote:
Logikbomb wrote:
I just spent 100 dollars on 4gbs corsair ddr2 800mhz the motherboard you linked is indeed cheap, but i doubt it will support my ddr2. I'm on a budget and the AM3 mobo I linked supports ddr2 800mhz.


man you got reemed, 4GB of DDR2 800 goes for $45 these days, can you return it?

spart hit on what I was getting at, there is no reason to go AM2+ anymore

in fact what I was going to suggest was the i5 750 and a nice P55 board.

That's another option- probably better then what I suggested- if you can return that DDR2, then you're peachy. If not, you just got totally ripped off.
Also, There are no AM3 mobos with DDR2. Period. AM3's specifcation is DDR3 only. The reason those say AM3 is because they're actually AM2+, but are compatible with Phenom IIs, so they're pitched as AM3. Welcome to the world of business.


I got the memory from newegg, i can not return it. I dont care about true AM3 or whatever, as long as it takes that quadcore thats 150% faster then my dual core amd 5600+ I am a happy man. I don't care too much about memory. My friend went from 4gb 800mhz to 6gb 1066mhz and he didnt know any difference at all. Memory is memory. It's not important to me. As long as the mobo will take my 800mhz I am a very happy person because im getting a new up to date motherboard that is ready for improvements and a top of the line amd quadcore. The reason the memory cost me 100 dollars is because i always ship computer parts with fedex next day air. You would be a fool to ship ups.


the problem is that your mobo is done after the current generation of Phenom 2's. with an AM3 or better yet, an 1156 board you would be set for the next few years. for the money you spent on CPU+Mobo, you could have had a P55 and Core i5 setup that is 95% as fast as a 1366 i7 setup. significantly faster than even the fastest Phenom 2

and if you got your ram from newegg you absolutely can return it


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i5 is faster than a Phenom II, but not by much... like 2-3% which is like 1fps. Im going to stick with AMD being that in a year Intels releasing a new socket.


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Intel has no new sockets planned. i9's will be 1366.


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Spartacus wrote:
Intel has no new sockets planned. i9's will be 1366.


i9 isn't sandybridge, i9 is 6 cores.


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I don't have aim but if you want to talk hit me up on steam

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get steam here (it's free)

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besides if you gonna have a gaming computer you should get steam anyhow.


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Logikbomb wrote:
i5 is faster than a Phenom II, but not by much... like 2-3% which is like 1fps. Im going to stick with AMD being that in a year Intels releasing a new socket.

Intel just released a new socket. This is the waiting conundrum at its worst. Guess what will happen when the new socket is released? another new socket will be just around the corner and you'll wait forever. There's great stuff out now, don't waste your time waiting.


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Im sorry if im kinda slow, but whats the $400 budget for?
CPU, mobo, and ram?
or just cpu and mobo?

If its the latter definitely go with the i5 line,
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115215
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813188054

if the memory is included in that then i suggest this combo

cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103675
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128377
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820148262

If that budget is really tight and you cant get the extra $20 then go with this cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103650


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