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 Post subject: Help check over a ~1100 build (monitor included)
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:09 pm 
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I think I have this mostly worked out now, but I am open to suggestions for changes. My main 2 unknowns at this point are HD and mobo. The mobo seems fine, but its got built in junk graphics.... which I could do without if it would save me money. I'll probably end up using the onboard sound for a bit, and if its terrible I can get a cheap add in later, but I really don't have the $$ for one now (nor am I am big audeophile).

This is what I'm planning
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySa ... ID=8044785


but I'll put an abreviated list inside this post to made it easier
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Proc: 920 PhenomII (AM2+ core)
mobo: ??Asus m4a78-e [790gx AM2 core]
Ram: 2x 2 gig sticks DDR2 (Kingston hyper X 1066, 5-5-5-15)
Video: ATI Saphire 1g 4870
Case: cool master ceturian 5
PSU: PC power and cooling 610w
Optical: asus 22x DVD burner retail
Monitor: Asus vh226h 22inch 2ms LCD monitor
OS: WinVista 64bit Home premium OEM
HD: ?? no idea, just whatever brand of TB drive is not buggy currently... many seem to have issues (please recommend one)
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Should be about about $1130 before any mail in rebates (and those are always iffy).
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As far as use, I'm mainly planning on using it for gaming, and being a media storage device. Small appartment currently, and my computer has to do pretty much everything [games, work, video, etc]. Already have a keyboard/mouse/speakers/headphones I'll be re-using. I have been using a 3year old 17inch dell labtop so almost ANYTHING is a big improvement, but I probably won't be able to do much if anything in the way of upgrades for atleast 2 years.... and obviously this is pretty much the upper end of my budget.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:15 pm 
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How much hdd do you need? You say mention media storage... what does this mean? For some it's there mp3 library, which is small peanuts. For others it's massive video and HD digital content that can consume terabytes of storage very easily!

640gb = $60
1000gb = $100
1500gb = $130

That's a great 16:9 monitor!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:23 pm 
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yeah monitor seemed like a good deal.

Hmm as for video, I don't work with much HD content currently. Its mostly just collection of movies, TV series, lots of games, etc. However, I would probably fill 300-400GB just moving stuff over almost immediately (my labtop HD and a 250gig removable are maxed).

The 1.5tb drive looked good at price but I thought Seagates were failing very frequently....? And that even the ones that weren't had some odd delay problem in the 1.5tb's?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Good question but nobody seems to honestly know of the Seagate 7200.11 firmware is actually fixed yet or not but all issues where when those hdd's were in RAID. I have four 1.5tb drives in my htpc and without a hiccup. Watch for Dell.com to put them on sale for $109, they do about 1-2 times a month for 2-3 days at a time.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:09 pm 
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ok. any opinion for mobo?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:44 pm 
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KnightXENO wrote:
ok. any opinion for mobo?


What type of functionality are you seeking? If you want a steal go with 780G board, like this $70 Foxconn or this $79 Asus.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:58 pm 
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Yep thats what I was looking for. Something good but cheaper that would still run PheII even though hadn't been updated on newegg etc.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:41 am 
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Knight, Klein gave great harddrive and mainboard recommendations, so I'll leave those alone.

My recommendations to your list would be to the RAM and case. The case was pretty good, but for the $50 you're spending on an old case like that one, you could do much better. Here are my picks for under $70.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811129042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811119152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811112192

As for the RAM, Kingston has never really been a great brand. They make great notebook locks whatnot (maybe I'm confusing them with Kensington?). Corsiar, OCZ, Crucial and Gskill all make better RAM if you ask me (and most of the forum members). Also 1066MHz RAM really isn't worth it unless you're doing some serious OCing. The extra speed won't be noticeable in daily use. Here's my RAM recommendation.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231122


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:18 pm 
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that Linux guy wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122


+1 on this ddr2. And if it's my $60, this is the case!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:24 pm 
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Maybe I'm missing something on the ram, I thought the mem controller on these chips ran natively @ ddr2 1066, not 800?? (as in not just for OCing?)

As for the cases, only one that seemed a decent alternative is the Lian Li (I like the top USB etc spots, bottom PSU), others are mesh designs which I've heard is louder. I'd rather something with decent features and quiter... but really not looking to pay much.

Leave those to open for a response.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:04 pm 
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+1 on the 690. I just assembled a machine with it toady, very easy to work in, very clean case.

Haven't' turned it on yet, can't commend on the noise, but it shouldn't be too bad


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:34 pm 
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It is indeed a real winner!


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 Post subject: UPDATE
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:18 pm 
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K ty for suggestions,build went off without a hitch and am enjoy it currenty.

Thoughts:
1) New egg comes through with a fast 3day delivery again
2) NJ is one of the few places where you have to pay taxes on new egg orders (bummer, raised the price a bit)
3) Vista.... *sigh* why MS has to rename and move all the apps you get used to every windows.... Missed the partition screen at boot, so had to spend quite a while getting free 3rd party software to change partition after the fact. Alls well that ends well I guess.

4) Monitor is great. Big, bright, came with 0 dead pixels....... but the color out of box was just OFF. I played around with it for a while and think I have it right now, but want to be sure.

Wondering if anyone has some suggestions on what they use to calibrate their monitors with? I remember using something, but have since lost whatever it was...... was using nothing but labtops for years.

Anyway, TY for help already. Would appreciate a bit more on what people usually do with new monitors.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:25 pm 
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You know that reminds me I need to calibrate my monitor as well. Isn't too badly off but I know it needs some correction. There are two ways you can go about calibrating your monitor. You can go with the test patterns over at Display Mate and calibrate it that way for free. Or you can get something like the Spyder 2 colorimeter and have it do the job for you. Frankly I'm really tempted to get one myself as it'll probably do a little bit better job than I can. Too bad I can't use it to calibrate my DLP HDTV.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:34 pm 
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nsafreak wrote:
You know that reminds me I need to calibrate my monitor as well. Isn't too badly off but I know it needs some correction. There are two ways you can go about calibrating your monitor. You can go with the test patterns over at Display Mate and calibrate it that way for free. Or you can get something like the Spyder 2 colorimeter and have it do the job for you. Frankly I'm really tempted to get one myself as it'll probably do a little bit better job than I can. Too bad I can't use it to calibrate my DLP HDTV.


If you do end up getting a Spyder, can you post some sort of a review here? I've always been curious about those things.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:38 pm 
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yeah I beleive displaymate was what I used years ago.

Problem is I don't see a free version on their website anymore, and the older versions circulating won't run on Vista64...?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:51 am 
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Calibrize 2.0 is fantastic!
http://www.calibrize.com


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