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 Post subject: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:26 pm 
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OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model Inspiron 620
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3300 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. A04, 11/21/2011
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 5.98 GB
Available Physical Memory 3.75 GB
Total Virtual Memory 12.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 9.23 GB
Page File Space 5.98 GB


I'm running a GeForce GT 430

My price range is 300$

What will I need to run Rome Total war 2 and Arma 3 to run on the highest setting or exceed it. Also will I need to upgrade my ram?
Also what type of hard drive would be best as my current one is starting to goes south with the blue screen of death. Should I just buy a case and start building my own computer?


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:55 pm 
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All you need is a GPU upgrade. At that price range a GTX 760 should get you far. And are you sure it's the hard drive that's causing BSODs?

Also $300 is not enough to build a new computer. For something of comparable power with the GPU you will need at least $600-$700.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:59 pm 
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Ahh so that one statement pertaining for GPU upgrade, it would be if I wanted to go the next level for what I already got.

The 300$ was for the card, sorry about that.

However the GTX 760 would be adequate for now.
Such as this, but they are different types of GTX 760 what would be the optimal one for me. say under 300$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130949

As for the BSOD it usually happens whenever I play arma 2. Sadly I didn't get down the information from when it occurred.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:16 pm 
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For selecting a GPU, just get whatever you can afford that has the best specs.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Which one do I need? From looking at plug from my monitor. It seems as if none of them match up. As for the card itself I'm not sure which one will work or even fit?


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:01 pm 
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... Actually before we go even further, I need to know the power supply inside of it. How many amps it spits out at 12V (look at the sticker) and if there's a PCI Express power connector (if any and how many).

Also give or take any video card will support your monitor. It's guaranteed to either take DVI or VGA, which video cards support (VGA is provided through one of the DVI ports with a converter that normally comes with the card).


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:22 pm 
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It is VGA so I need an adapter.
It also has got the volts I believe.
The card PNY and there really isn't much room. I only have one PCIE slot. I could not find any PCIE power connector slots.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:08 pm 
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As for the BSOD it usually happens whenever I play arma 2. Sadly I didn't get down the information from when it occurred.

You really need to figure out at BSOD before you do any upgrading. The last thing you want is to spend $300+ only to have a computer that continues to BSOD when you play Arma II.

Based on your comments, it sounds like your computer automatically reboots anytime there is a BSOD. To stop this from happening you need to turn that option off:
  • Click Start Button -- Right click Computer on the right side of the menu
  • In the new window click Advanced System Settings on the left
  • In the System Properties window, select the Advanced tab and then click Settings... under Startup and Recovery
  • Under System failure make sure Automatically restart is unchecked
  • Click Ok until all windows are closed

Now when you get a BSOD you'll be able to see the error codes (typically look like 0x00000F4). Now you can search using the error code to identify the problem.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:27 pm 
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You could also go to Control Panel → Administrative Tools → Event Viewer and look at all the System Events for errors.

Also we have a problem, that power supply doesn't have a PCI-Express connector, so that pretty much rules out any useful upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:55 am 
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Well what are my options now?
Also whenever I go into the even viewer, what should I be looking for primarily as there is a lot blips. I haven't had a BSOD in over two weeks and it doesnt seem like it goes that far back


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:17 pm 
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Well, you'd have to get a new PSU to get anything beyond what you have now. As for the event viewer you're looking for red icons and they should be under the error category.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:11 pm 
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I have quite of bit of errors under the sub category that go back to 2012


The description for Event ID 1 from source C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvStreamSrv\nvstreamsvc.exe cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

Session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000035

Session "ReadyBoot" stopped due to the following error: 0xC0000188

Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND
TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.

This is all top of sub category lists.

What would be a proper PSU that would fit within my tower? Links?


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Well, go cause a BSOD. :D

As for PSU, any 160mm length ATX PSU should do nicely. Something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817151076 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139026 should do.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:52 pm 
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Uhh what do I with the error information?


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:21 pm 
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You need to get the Stop code


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:03 am 
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I can't get them to reappear nor do I want to spend forever playing these games. Are those codes I listed not enough?



I will probably get this as my PSU anything else I need to know about this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139026


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:23 am 
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No, those aren't BCC/Bugcheck/Stop code errors.

As for the PSU, it only has one PCI-e plug with could limit your choice of video cards, but we could probably use the 2x Molex to PCI adapter that usually comes with video cards.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:34 pm 
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I have been playing for sometime now and so far no BSOD. However now, looking back to when I got the BSOD is whenever I was messing around with the MSI Afterbuner.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:35 pm 
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It might've been overheating or something if you were tweaking with clock speeds.


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 Post subject: Re: What would be the best bang hardware wise.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:11 pm 
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I agree. So the two links I posted is the best choice to go in terms of doing it right for the graphics card?
I mean if I selected the other choice you posted I would have a easier time with the PSU? Instead of the other one I picked out of the two links I picked.


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