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 Post subject: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:46 am 
Sharptooth
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Hi All,

So I'm trying to build a mini-ITX sized computer and so far all I know I want is this case:

http://tinyurl.com/lmt8m2o

I'm trying to spend under $1000 so any and all suggestions would be very helpful.

This PC will mostly be used for gaming.

Thank you all for your suggestions. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:47 am 
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Will this replace another system or will this be stand alone?
I ask so we know whether or not we can reuse items like mouse/keyboard/monitor/etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:06 am 
Clawhammer
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I just made a build on that. There's plenty of room inside to work with, though it might be a little cramped for some things. Like power supplies, you can only get power supplies with 160mm depth, and even then that's a tight squeeze. Also, modular PSUs I feel are mandatory to avoid having a ton of cables in there you won't need.

So we can start off with something like:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.92 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Orange) Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.75 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $929.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 11:06 EST-0500)

The inclusion of one memory module is not a typo. It probably doesn't really affect anything and you can add another 8GB down the road.


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:39 am 
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This will be standalone, but I will use the mouse, keyboard, etc for both.

Pretty much the part list was what I was looking for.

Is a 450W big enough for all the parts? I mean...I assume it is because it's included, but I'd rather have too much power than too little. If you know what I mean.


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:13 am 
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Yes, to put things into perspective, I have a Core i5-4670K OC'd to 4.0GHz Turbo cooled by a Corsair H80i, the same motherboard with two sticks of RAM, a GeForce GTX 670, a Samsung 840, and a WD Caviar Black 2TB. On idle the thing sits at 50W. When running a game it barely tips past 200W. Putting say a GTX 780ti will probably add like 75W at worst. And since you can't really add power hogging upgrades to an ITX build, there's no point in going past say 500W.

I'm not sure about Rosewill though but people says it's good. I chose a Seasonic SSR-450 because well... I know Seasonic is reputable.


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:17 pm 
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Personally, I think it is a huge mistake to build a mini-ITX Gamer. It can be done but it costs more than a ATX or u-ATX and there are serious thermal issues. Future expansion is pretty much non-existent as well. But since LatiosXT has a similar build he obviously disagrees. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mini-ITX Build "Advice Needed"
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:41 pm 
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It can be done but it costs more than a ATX or u-ATX and there are serious thermal issues.

The only thing that Mini-ITX builds cost more in is with cases, since I haven't found a decent $40 case. But otherwise, all of the other parts on my current builds BOM is more or less the same as a uATX or ATX build. Heck, the motherboard I bought, the ASRock Z87E-ITX, costs about as much as the Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 ATX board I bought for my last build, and I would argue the Z87E-ITX has more features (more 6Gbps ports, USB3.0 ports, Wireless 802.11ac included).

As for serious thermal issues, the Prodigy hasn't given me any issues at least on the GPU side (I'm cheating with a water cooler). Besides, they cramp 150W hardware in gaming consoles with less breathing room than most ITX cases.

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Future expansion is pretty much non-existent as well.

My last build has taught me one thing: gaming computers rarely get expansion anyway. The only other expansion card I added were sound cards, which onboard sound has reached a point where having a sound card seems kind of silly (mostly because the only reason why gamers would need one died a long time ago). I also don't find SLI or Crossfire worthwhile. Yes I've done it, but the additional requirements plus the extra waste generated I don't find worth while anymore.

The only thing I see that's lacking is two extra RAM slots and fewer SATA ports. But 8GB (in a 2x4GB configuration) is still plenty for gaming builds and the most SATA devices I installed were 4 and I've reduced that to 2.

Then again I'm the kind of person who builds completely new systems every few years. Either way though, tailor the build to your needs.


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