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 Post subject: First custom PC, please help.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:54 pm 
8086
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So I've been working on a really bad PC for a long time and I've decided to finally buy a new one.

I have a thread here:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/193 ... aybe-wifi/
Which is where I got most of my build and information on custom PCs.

Anyways, right now I am trying to perfect my build for what I want to use my PC for (look in the link, OP), by that I mean lowering the price(without loosing quality) and increasing the quality (with very minimal price increase), and this is what I've come up with:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($164.14 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_RD 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($92.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($154.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($100.47 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($148.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.50 @ Vuugo)
Mouse: Corsair Raptor M4 Wired Laser Mouse ($29.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $2011.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-14 19:44 EDT-0400)

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So I need you guys's help to perfect it, keep in mind these things:

Those monitors are just placeholder, I'm getting other ones from Dell (I have a sale) http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod ... u=320-2807

I want my RAM to only take 2 of my 4 slots (like it does right now) for the sake of future upgrade-ability.

I chose my case on the fact that 1. It looks awesome and 2. Someone said it would work great so that's kinda iffy, if it really sucks please tell me but other than that I think I'll be going with it.

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I also have some questions:
How exactly do I get the parts (safely) from the list up top all the way to my house? (I like in Oakville, Ontario, Canada)
How do I install an operating system if there's no operating system to install it with? Practically, how do I get the operating system on to the PC and working?
Also, should I get dual 7950's with crossfire? It seems like a shady idea because of all the problems but there's this one guy who seems to think it's like the best thing ever.

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Thankyou, please help soon!


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 Post subject: Re: First custom PC, please help.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:14 am 
Smithfield
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Came up with a new list, saves you about $100
Notable changes:
  • AMD FX 8320 to Intel Core i5-4570. Unless you're doing heavily threaded tasks (which I'm going to assume no), Intel's offerings will provide better performance overall. If you want to get into overclocking, it's another $30 or so for the i5-4670K. The motherboard looked to have plenty of bells and whistles, and originally had a $200 price tag.
  • 16GB of memory to 8GB. Unless you're running VMs, video editors, or using Photoshop for extensive periods of time, 8GB is more than enough.
  • Radeon HD 7970 to GeForce GTX 770. Generally a better performer, if a bit more expensive. And it can support three monitors at once (2 DVI, 1 HDMI or DP)
  • Power supply to a Seasonic MII Bronze 620W, only because of a quirk with Haswell.
  • Included an optical drive
However, please look up reviews on any part and make sure they fit your needs

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.46 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.50 @ Vuugo)
Mouse: Corsair Raptor M4 Wired Laser Mouse ($29.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1915.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-15 13:55 EDT-0400)


As for your questions
How exactly do I get the parts (safely) from the list up top all the way to my house? (I like in Oakville, Ontario, Canada)
If the vendors ship there, it'll ship there.

How do I install an operating system if there's no operating system to install it with? Practically, how do I get the operating system on to the PC and working?
Insert the disk into the DVD drive and it'll boot from there.

Also, should I get dual 7950's with crossfire? It seems like a shady idea because of all the problems but there's this one guy who seems to think it's like the best thing ever.
It might be for a three monitor setup, but there's no such thing as a free lunch here because:
  • You should weigh the price/performance ratio for such a setup against higher models. Although at this high end, I don't think it matters
  • While I believe 650W is sufficient, I would bump up the power supply to 750W.
  • I see people believe this a lot, but the video memory of both cards don't combine into a uniform space. They remain separated (.e.g, two 2GB cards don't give you video memory pool of 4GB). While I don't think it's an issue now with the 7950 with 2GB of memory, but keep in mind that some video memory heavy games will stutter despite performing well otherwise.
  • AMD cards suffer more from frame rate variance, also known as microstuttering. This means even though the benchmarking too is reporting say 60FPS or higher, you perceive this to be lower.

Also just a personal preference, but two cards feel like they're hard to pawn off. If you have people who are willing to take your old crap then sure. I've done SLI, but have since gone back to a single card.


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 Post subject: Re: First custom PC, please help.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:10 pm 
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Actually it's been a while since I posted this and here's the new build I'm looking at.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($164.39 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_RD 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($92.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($154.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($126.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($328.12 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($148.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($88.38 @ Newegg Canada)
Other: Laser Gaming Mouse - G500s ($69.99)
Other: Ultrasharp 23" 1080p ($189.99)
Other: Ultrasharp 23" 1080p ($189.99)
Other: Ultrasharp 23" 1080p ($189.99)
Total: $2167.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-15 20:09 EDT-0400)


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 Post subject: Re: First custom PC, please help.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:53 pm 
Smithfield
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Still sticking with my post for the same reasons.


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