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 Post subject: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:47 pm 
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hey guys thanks for checking this thread out. Let me start off by saying I am pretty much a noob with building computers. I know what parts go in it but I do not know what works well and what things I should look for. Anyway, I am looking to build a computer for some gaming (not hardcore) and just miscellaneous stuff. I have a case, power supply, hard drives, and optical drive. My cpu, and mobo are outdated. I've been going by this break down:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bud ... ,3364.html

and I have been watching some videos on youtube where people use other parts. Can someone please let me know what I should do? Any advice is greatly appreciated. I am also on a budget so I would like to spend around $200. Thanks!

would this be a good mobo to go with?

http://www.gearxs.com/index.php?route=p ... ct_id=1363


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:45 am 
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WELCOME! Welcome to the MaxPC FORUMS. Please make sure you don't just play a voyeur - be sure to actively contribute, advise and help someone else out. This place is only as good as it's participants - it's all about quality and timely I/O.

A budget of $200, ain't much, you're best off just to buy prebuilt or used on ebay. But if you can double that figure, you can have something like this...

i3 3225, $110
Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3 = $45 with MicroCenter bundle discount
Samsung 8GB 1600, $29
Radeon HD 7770, $95
Barracuda 1.5TB, $65
Corsair CX430, $20
Samsung SH-222, $14
Rosewill FBM-02, $20
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$398 dGPU
$298 iGPU


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:21 pm 
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kleinkinstein wrote:
WELCOME! Welcome to the MaxPC FORUMS. Please make sure you don't just play a voyeur - be sure to actively contribute, advise and help someone else out. This place is only as good as it's participants - it's all about quality and timely I/O.

A budget of $200, ain't much, you're best off just to buy prebuilt or used on ebay. But if you can double that figure, you can have something like this...

i3 3225, $110
Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3 = $45 with MicroCenter bundle discount
Samsung 8GB 1600, $29
Radeon HD 7770, $95
Barracuda 1.5TB, $65
Corsair CX430, $20
Samsung SH-222, $14
Rosewill FBM-02, $20
----------------------------------
$398 dGPU
$298 iGPU


What does this mean?

Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3 = $45 with MicroCenter bundle discount


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:29 pm 
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You can buy the combo from a Microcenter if you have one near you.

Though honestly Klein, offer an alternative to this and stop basing builds from the Microcenter deals. Not everyone lives within a reasonable distance to one.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:43 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
You can buy the combo from a Microcenter if you have one near you.

Though honestly Klein, offer an alternative to this and stop basing builds from the Microcenter deals. Not everyone lives within a reasonable distance to one.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157335

how is this mobo?

and does the socket type make a difference? is one more modern than the other?


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:54 pm 
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I see no problems with that motherboard and should suit your needs. The only minor kink I see is it has two RAM slots, so you have to upgrade if you want more.

Socket type makes a difference in physical compatibility with the CPU. And yes, one is more modern than the other. For Intel processors the latest ones are LGA2011 and LGA1155, for AMD it's AM3+.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:10 pm 
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garcias732 wrote:
I have a case, power supply, hard drives, and optical drive.

Kleinkinstein wrote:
Barracuda 1.5TB, $65
Corsair CX430, $20
Samsung SH-222, $14
Rosewill FBM-02, $20

These are not needed since garcias states he already has them.

Before you buy anything, you need to understand the basics about CPU/Motherboard compatibility: Intel vs. AMD. On top of that, Intel & AMD each have 2-4 different styles (or sockets) that are available right now, and they don't always play nice with each other. For example, you can't buy a socket 2011 CPU and get it to work with a socket 1155 motherboard. It may sound daunting, but if you look at enough builds and do enough research it will start to make sense. Word of advice: post anything you plan on buying before you actually do and let us help you figure out whether they are compatible.

Most people on these boards like Intel - and for good reason: they're reliable, fast, and Intel makes the fastest consumer CPUs. Period. Of course, these CPUs are WAY out of your price range. In the range where you're looking, AMD offers very competitive CPUs. IMO, AMD can offer some of the best bang-for-buck.

Kleinkinstein, recommended an Intel-based build. Below is an AMD based build:

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) $75
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 $51
Patriot Intel Extreme Master 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $50

This CPU includes a graphics card that is similar in performance to the 7770 listed above. Provided the components you already own are compatible (you don't list them, so I don't know), this will get you under the $200 mark.

Also, you didn't mention an OS (like Win 7 or 8 ), so I don't know if you have one, but if you don't, that will run you about another $100.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:27 pm 
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btdog wrote:
garcias732 wrote:
I have a case, power supply, hard drives, and optical drive.

Kleinkinstein wrote:
Barracuda 1.5TB, $65
Corsair CX430, $20
Samsung SH-222, $14
Rosewill FBM-02, $20

These are not needed since garcias states he already has them.

Before you buy anything, you need to understand the basics about CPU/Motherboard compatibility: Intel vs. AMD. On top of that, Intel & AMD each have 2-4 different styles (or sockets) that are available right now, and they don't always play nice with each other. For example, you can't buy a socket 2011 CPU and get it to work with a socket 1155 motherboard. It may sound daunting, but if you look at enough builds and do enough research it will start to make sense. Word of advice: post anything you plan on buying before you actually do and let us help you figure out whether they are compatible.

Most people on these boards like Intel - and for good reason: they're reliable, fast, and Intel makes the fastest consumer CPUs. Period. Of course, these CPUs are WAY out of your price range. In the range where you're looking, AMD offers very competitive CPUs. IMO, AMD can offer some of the best bang-for-buck.

Kleinkinstein, recommended an Intel-based build. Below is an AMD based build:

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) $75
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 $51
Patriot Intel Extreme Master 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $50

This CPU includes a graphics card that is similar in performance to the 7770 listed above. Provided the components you already own are compatible (you don't list them, so I don't know), this will get you under the $200 mark.

Also, you didn't mention an OS (like Win 7 or 8 ), so I don't know if you have one, but if you don't, that will run you about another $100.

Hope this helps.


Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it. When reading the reviews of that mobo I saw a lot of people had problems with it. How is this cpu?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116397

would you recommend it?

And I would either have to download the os or buy it


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:32 pm 
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That's a decent CPU for the budget.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:41 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
That's a decent CPU for the budget.


mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157335

cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116397

ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820220705

what do you think? not bad? should I be able to run games?


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:44 pm 
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What about graphics card?


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:51 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
What about graphics card?


I have 2 different ones he gave me. They are older but do you think they will still be okay?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143036

and

http://www.ixbt.com/video3/images/rv630 ... -front.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:59 pm 
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You can get a $100 card that will easily be 4 times faster than either of those two.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:01 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
You can get a $100 card that will easily be 4 times faster than either of those two.


Which one would you recommend? I am really trying to budget and not spend too much. Like I said I won't be playing crazy games (more like Arma 2 MOD Dayz)


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:21 pm 
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gam ... 107-2.html I'd probably go for the 550Ti, if you can't find one, GTX 650 also works.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:56 am 
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@OP, never buy a mATX motherboard if you have an ATX case. It's illogical. It's like renting a six bedroom high-rise apartment for just you, your parakeet, your HAM radio and shoebox full of SPAM.


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:16 pm 
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LatiosXT wrote:
What about graphics card?


how about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814102969


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 Post subject: Re: First time build... I needs help!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:58 pm 
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btdog wrote:
garcias732 wrote:
I have a case, power supply, hard drives, and optical drive.

Kleinkinstein wrote:
Barracuda 1.5TB, $65
Corsair CX430, $20
Samsung SH-222, $14
Rosewill FBM-02, $20

These are not needed since garcias states he already has them.

Before you buy anything, you need to understand the basics about CPU/Motherboard compatibility: Intel vs. AMD. On top of that, Intel & AMD each have 2-4 different styles (or sockets) that are available right now, and they don't always play nice with each other. For example, you can't buy a socket 2011 CPU and get it to work with a socket 1155 motherboard. It may sound daunting, but if you look at enough builds and do enough research it will start to make sense. Word of advice: post anything you plan on buying before you actually do and let us help you figure out whether they are compatible.

Most people on these boards like Intel - and for good reason: they're reliable, fast, and Intel makes the fastest consumer CPUs. Period. Of course, these CPUs are WAY out of your price range. In the range where you're looking, AMD offers very competitive CPUs. IMO, AMD can offer some of the best bang-for-buck.

Kleinkinstein, recommended an Intel-based build. Below is an AMD based build:

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) $75
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 $51
Patriot Intel Extreme Master 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $50

This CPU includes a graphics card that is similar in performance to the 7770 listed above. Provided the components you already own are compatible (you don't list them, so I don't know), this will get you under the $200 mark.

Also, you didn't mention an OS (like Win 7 or 8 ), so I don't know if you have one, but if you don't, that will run you about another $100.

Hope this helps.


so this is what I am looking at so far... what do you guys think? my power supply is a 400 watt

mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157335

cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116397

ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820220705

video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814202011


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