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 Post subject: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:02 pm 
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As the Topic header implies, I am building a pc for the first time. Intended purely for GAMING. Id like to set it up to be future proof, (at least 2 yrs). I've been looking on at a few websites such as Newegg, PcpartPicker, Amazon, and TigerDirect for parts. Unfortunately in the end, i'm new to this and don't know whats good and whats not. This is where i'd like some insight and advice. As stated before, i'm looking for it to be somewhat future proof and here's some of the things i'm looking for:

-Intel Processor
-Nvidia GPU
-Around 8gb Ram
-SSD mainly just for OS, so around 60gb
-1tb Hard Drive
-Reliable PSU that can support at least 2 GPU's
-Motherboard that supports at least 2-way SLI
-Case that isn't too big

Those are the main things i'm looking for and here's the selections i've made so far on PcPartPicker --http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BTb5 -- I'm looking to spend MAX $1000 before the GPU. I'm looking to go with 2 GTX 680's in SLI mode so everything else would have to be compatible with that.

Games I play are GTA 4 with IcEnhancer, Battlefield 4, Skyrim with texture mods, Far Cry 3, and Crysis 3 (when released). I'd like to build a Pc that's going to be able to handle games for the next couple of yrs.


Plz help me with some advice, recommendations and thoughts of changes to my selections. "I DON'T WANT AMD IN ANY WAY"

THANK YOU

Just in case url didnt work ---> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BTb5


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:38 pm 
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Here's what I recommend you get for your build


Processor Intel i7-3770K $320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 $200http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819

RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB of DDR3 1866MHz $54 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

SSD Intel 330 60GB $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167120

1TB hard drive $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

Power Supply Cougar 1000W $150 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817553004

Windows 7 64-Bit OEM $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Total $1112


For your 680's I'd recommend two of these EVGA Cards $470 each http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130768


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:08 pm 
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First off I'm going to recommend going against a pair of GTX 680s for a few reasons:

1) SLi (and CrossFire for that matter) have a tendency of introducing problems in games where there are none present when a single GPU works fine
2) You will not see any performance gains over a single GTX 680 or Radeon HD 7970 unless you're running a tri monitor setup all running 1920x1080 or higher which I frankly doubt you're going to be doing. That being said what I would recommend would be the following:

CPU: Intel i5 3570k Link
Motherboard: ASRock Extreme3 Link
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Link
GPU: Gigabyte 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256 bit GDDR5 Link
SSD: Samsung 840 120GB SATA III Link
HDD: Western Digital 1TB Green Link
PSU: Corsair CX 600 Link
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Titanium Grey Link

Total build cost (Not including shipping/taxes): $1,012.92

You can swap out the 7870 for a GTX 680 or a 7970 and still be well within your budget.

A few things to note about chriszele's build:

1) There is zero benefit with going with an i7 processor for gaming. The only game out there that even partially takes advantage of it is BF3 the rest of the games currently on the market (and quite likely for the forseeable future) barely use all 4 cores of an i5
2) Nice motherboard but frankly the ASRock board that I'm recommending has all of the features covered for a much lower price
3) There is no benefit with going with DDR3-1866 RAM, you won't see any performance difference between it and DDR3-1600
4) The Intel SSD drive isn't bad but it's tiny, the Samsung I'm recommending is larger and isn't much more expensive
5) PSU, even going dual GTX 680 GPUs a 1000 watt PSU is vast overkill, a decent 850 watt PSU would work fine with room to spare


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:22 pm 
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Thank u for your input. But going SLI seems safe for the future. I don't plan on going dual 680's right away. I'll be using a single 680 4gb for the time being and getting a 2nd later.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:26 pm 
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@ Nsafreak - That's a damn nice spec. And an even smarter critique.

My only tweaks (preferences really) would be....

MB: ASRock Extreme4 or Pro-4
RAM: 1.35v dimms like the magic ram or Blacklines
GPU: 7950
HDD: 2TB Barracuda
PSU: Seasonic X650

@ OP, if you don't go SLI or XF now you won't later. Only 5% who dream of twins ever do it. It's really a silly plan and illogical strategy. I should know, first hand. Get the single best card you can now.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:28 pm 
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Doing SLi isn't going to future proof your system. The upcoming GeForce Titan is slated to have 85% of the performance of a GTX 690 which is essentially two slightly downclocked GTX 680s on a single board. There's a large percentage of games that don't put SLi to good use as well and it's a trend that will likely continue for a good long bit since the folks that have that kind of configuration are in the minority. If you really must be stubborn and go SLi I would go with a pair of GTX 670 GPUs instead since the performance difference between a 670 and a 680 is very slight and easily overcome with a little bit of overclocking.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:35 pm 
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I have seen news about the Titan, pretty excited to hear more when publicly announced. So, do u think SLI isn't here to stay? Like I said, this is my first build and I just got into PC gaming about 1/2 a year ago. I'm new to all of this. What about the 690? Worth it? Or should I completely wait to see what the titan holds for us? I'm in no rush for the GPU and like I said, I want something that's going to be a little future proof from today.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:55 pm 
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Current rumor is that the Titan is going to run somewhere between $800 and $1000 if not more and I find it hard to recommend spending that much on a GPU. If we were closer to AMD & nVidia releasing some new GPUs then I might recommend waiting. But in all likelihood it's going to be a few more months before the next round of mainstream GPUs are released. For now I would recommend getting a single GTX 670 or 7970 and going from there. On the bright side even if your GPU isn't meeting your needs 2 years from now (doubtful) then it'll be all you need to upgrade as I don't see a need upcoming for a CPU upgrade for anybody running a SandyBridge or IvyBridge based i5/i7 CPU. Heck even the early adopters of the Nehalem i7s are just now thinking about and performing upgrades, most waiting for Haswell.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:12 pm 
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nsafreak wrote:
Current rumor is that the Titan is going to run somewhere between $800 and $1000 if not more and I find it hard to recommend spending that much on a GPU. If we were closer to AMD & nVidia releasing some new GPUs then I might recommend waiting. But in all likelihood it's going to be a few more months before the next round of mainstream GPUs are released. For now I would recommend getting a single GTX 670 or 7970 and going from there. On the bright side even if your GPU isn't meeting your needs 2 years from now (doubtful) then it'll be all you need to upgrade as I don't see a need upcoming for a CPU upgrade for anybody running a SandyBridge or IvyBridge based i5/i7 CPU. Heck even the early adopters of the Nehalem i7s are just now thinking about and performing upgrades, most waiting for Haswell.



Thank u nsafreak. You've given me alot of info.


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 Post subject: Re: Building gaming pc 1st time. Advice PLZ
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:28 am 
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The current rumor mill also suggests that the next-gen GPUs are going to come out in 2013Q4.

On a side note, SLI/Crossfire should only ever be considered if:
  • You're running a 2560x1600 or 2560x1440 resolution
  • You're running an EyeFinity/Surround 3D setup.
  • Two cards have better price/performance than one higher-end card (but keep in mind any savings you may incur will go to needing a beefier PSU)

If you're running 1920x1200, all games will run at least 30FPS on maximum settings with a GTX 660/Radeon HD 7870.

Also you can't future proof anything. Don't even put that in the same context with planning a new build. As others have mentioned, it's better to just get a single GPU, then in two years if you need an upgrade, you can buy something that will perform at least 50% better for the same cost as the original. And you can usually pawn off the old GPU.


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