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 Post subject: 1st time Build, need advice for a beginner.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:32 pm 
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I need advice on my first build

Budget =$1200 -$1600

I want to be able to play Half life 2, Halo2, Doom3...etc. So i'm not quite sure what to do about the video card. 6800gt? Memory, I don't have a clue except i know that i need at least 1gig. So how do things look? again this is my first build and i appreciate all the help i can get. Did i forget anything?

CASE -$125.50 Lian-Li PC-65b http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 040&depa=1

PSU -$129 Antec 480 watt 120mm fan ATX 12V v2.0 power supply, Active PFC, Model "NeoPower" - Retail http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 924&DEPA=1

CPU -$267 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... de=80717-R

MOBO -$137 MSI K8N NEO4 Platinum http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant ... ode=110480

Memory - ???? $90 kingston 512MBx2 DDR PC-3200 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 423&DEPA=1

VIDEO $285 Connect3D ATI RADEON X800 XL Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model 3028B -OEM http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 036&depa=0

Optical -$52 Double Layer DVD±RW Drive, Black, Model ND-3520A BK, OEM http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 035&depa=1

Hard Drive -$159 Maxtor (6B250S0) DiamondMax Plus 10 250GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Cache http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant ... HardDrives

Sound -$86.99 Audigy 2 ZS http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=290223

LCD Moniter - ???$239 ViewSonic VA712B-1 17" LCD Monitor, 8ms –RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 352&depa=0


THANKS!!!


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You forgot:

Floppy
Modem
Keyboard
Mouse
OS
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Is this mainly a gaming rig? How well do you want to be able to play these games? Would you want to overclock it a bit? I have to get back to you because I am very busy and just spent about one hour helping someone else...:?


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Wow, those are some strong choices you've got.

Since I've heard many stories about Kingston's Value RAM not handling DDR400 speeds, I prefer Mushkin's alternative better. Look! Same price or $10 cheaper w/ MIR. As reliable as Kingston.

For LCD's, this monitor looks like it'll be out of stock very quickly. (8ms response time, 17" screen) Grab one quick!

With those, your total will end up around $1480, so you can spend about $100 dollars for a X800 XL (PCI-E) and you will practically double your frame rates. ~100% performance boost for just a ~60% rise in price? That's crazy!


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lol, you sound like you were having fun. :D


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DrSatan wrote:
lol, you sound like you were having fun. :D


Hah, after the 3500+ (no pun ;)) posts I've racked up I've learned that I have to have fun when I'm doing this sorta stuff. :D


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DOH! :D
Oh yea the keyboard, mouse, floppy, OS, cable modem.

I would like to use this rig to do photoshop stuff, gaming, music, video editing (home DVD's... I would like to be able to make a "How to" DVD on - Marble Making sometime in the future).

I would like play these games well. I've always had a crappy computer, and it's been years since i last upgraded (i'm using a compaq 600mhz celerion laptop...the only thing i do is surf the net with this hunk of junk). So i want a rig that i can enjoy some semi serious gaming.


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If you're going to overclock, get the 3500 Winchester core instead and a Zalman cooler. The Winchester runs much cooler and with the Zalman (or without!) it can overclock like the dickens! You can get it up to FX-55 speeds on air! D00d, that is some intense shit! Yu kno wha I'm sayeen!?

(OC1337, you're right :D)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:16 pm 
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So by "strong choices"...is that good or bad. I'm i going overboard? I've been reading this forum now for over a week and trying to decide which route(s) to go with the mobo, video, cpu...etc.


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Would weak choices sound better? No, strong choices is a good thing. You read my question yet!? This is the third time! Will you want to overclock!?


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Sorry Satan. Yes. overclocking.


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Then definitely get the Winchester with a Zalman CPU cooler! It'll be like, WHOA! THAT'S FAST SHIZZNIT!


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Dot dot dot

Then what's up with your choice of value RAM?

OS? Cable Modem? Oh dear, you'll have to skimp on some stuff - notably the HDD, sound card, case, CPU, video card. Not all, though! And since you're overclocking, you'll have to squeeze things a bit more.


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if you are doing photoshop, video editing, and music you should get a Mac
but if your main focus is gaming, PC's are for you


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Not always true there. Especially since he's gaming though he can't, but lower costing MACs perform worse against most lower level PCs. That's because MACs cost more. But then there's is a point where the PC will start to cost more and the MAC beats it. MACs are better high-end systems, but worse mid-range systems. Also, MACs are not upgradeable. Well, they are, but not really. You can upgrade like the RAM and maybe HDD and CPU, but that's about it.


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Mac is not an option. I want to be able to upgrade in the future and i really don't like MAC's that much.


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i dont like MACs either...but yeah, definitely get that winchester core.


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