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The A64 seems to be a very popular CPU so here is a thread devoted to 3500+'s.
To all the 3500+ owners out there:
Please copy and paste the questions below and answer them.

use a question mark for what you don't know

only for 3500+'s

Mobo:
Core(newcastle or winchester):
Speed:
Bus:
Multiplier:
Voltage:
Cooling:
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock):
Latency(memory timings):
Idle temps(C):
Load temps(C):

u can use CPUID to find most of this stuff out

example(mine)(no OCing yet)

Mobo:MSI K8N neo2 platinum
Core(newcastle or winchester):newcastle
Speed: 2200
Bus: 200
Multiplier: 11
Voltage: 1.5
Cooling: air, stock
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock): DDR400
Latency(memory timings): 2-2-2-5
Idle temps(C): 42
Load temps(C): ?

EDIT- Im hoping to learn from this thread so i can OC

sorry to break the thread, but slfshooter... this is OCs only
i'm gonna post my scores here even tho i dun have a 3500... shoot me

Mobo: Abit AV8
Core: winchester
Speed: 3200 @ 2.55
Bus: 255
Multiplier: 10
Voltage: 1.575
Cooling: TT PIPE101 with 92 mm silentcat
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock): DDR333 x 255: DDR425
Latency(memory timings): 2.5-3-3-8
Idle temps(C): 48
Load temps(C): 65

Pre-overclock. I will edit when I get better RAM.

Mobo: MSI-K8TNeo2
Core: Newcastle
Speed: 2.2GHz
Bus: 200MHz
Multiplier: 11
Voltage: 1.5V
Cooling: Air (stock)
Ram: DDR400
RAM timings: 3-3-3-8
Idle temps(C): 40
Load temps(C): ~48-49

*edited because Idling temp was wrong

The core is stable up to FSB:240(maybe higher thats just where I stopped )
But I like my low RAM timings so this is what I run for gaming and what not.

Mobo:Asus A8V
Core(newcastle or winchester):newcastle
Speed:2409
Bus:219
Multiplier:11
Voltage:~1.55-1.6 I dont remember and Im not at home
Cooling:coolermaster Hyper 48
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock):DDR400
Latency(memory timings):2-2-2-5
Idle temps(C):30
Load temps(C):48

Since not a lot of people are posting their 3500+'s just for fun I thought I'd post my old Dell specs:
Mobo: Dimension 4300 (circa 2001)
Core(newcastle or winchester): Willamette
Speed: 1495.2
Bus: 99.7 MHz
Multiplier: 15.0
Voltage: hrm, probably less than 3V, not sure tho
Cooling: Dell's weird stock cooling
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock): SDRAM PC133
Latency(memory timings):3-3-3-6
temps(C): lol the only thing that has a sensor on it is my HDD, so...
HDD temp(C): 38 (idle)
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Well, there you have it, my Dell clearly outperforms all of your 3500s.

do you think i could get my 3500+ newcastle, bus up to 219Mhz on stock cooling and be ok?

I had mine running at 219 with my stock HSF but temps unter load were around 60, that was a little to hot for me

The core is stable up to FSB:255

Mobo:Asus A8V
Core(newcastle or winchester):Winchester
Speed:2300
Bus:260
Multiplier:9
Voltage:~1.45-1.5
Cooling:Stock HSF
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock):425MHz
Latency(memory timings):2-3-2-5 (I think)
Idle temps(C):~37 - 39
Load temps(C):~54 - 57

It's a 3000+, but it's running faster than the 3500+ anyway

Just a quick comment for those of you running your A64 procs at 2-2-2-5, you'll actually get better performance at by setting your tRAS to 10 (2-2-2-10).

AnandTech
"We have found the fastest performance on AMD Athlon 64 chipsets (nForce3, VIA K8T800 PRO) to be achieved at Cycle Time or tRAS of 10. Athlon 64 platform benchmarks were, therefore, run with the tRAS timing of 10 for all A64 benchmarks."

XBitLabs
"Note that we increased the Cycle Time (Tras) timing of Athlon 64 to 10, because according to our experience, the memory controller of Athlon 64 processor works more efficiently in this mode, than in case this setting equals 5."

There was an article that explained this more in depth, but I'm having trouble finding it at the moment.

One4, thanks, do you OC?
You also have an MSI K8N neo2 board don't you?

Of course I overclock, where's the fun at running at stock?

As far as my system, I had a K8N/FX-53 combo but sold it. I'm looking to move to nForce4 but am currently just sitting my upgrade funds. I basically have everything except for the mobo and video card. Once prices and availability settle, I'll move forward.

yeah, kinda wondering since i am looking at a 3500+ winchester and nforce4 mobo, i was wondering if it be possable to get fx55 speeds on air (thermalright xp90)

and if so, how stable mite that be, for future reference

Changing them did nothing for me last night :-\

It's going to do 'something,' you're just not likely to notice it. Test your memory bandwidth at 2-2-2-5 and 2-2-2-10, then compare the results.

SiSoft Sandra

My memory defaults to 8 anyway. I run it at 8 and it goes just fine right now.

I changed the LDT multiplier and got up to 2.55, 2.6 unstable.

lol, alrighty then. As mentioned however, 2-2-2-10 will yield the best performance results on an A64 platform (for those *interested*).

Memory timing... 1t or 2t? What's the dif?

1t and 2t refer to the command rate. If your RAM can handle it, it's highly desireable from a performance standpoint to run 1t. If you're overclocking, however, you'll have to balance that decision with how far you can stably push your system.

There's a pretty good article on Anandtech that delves into RAM. When you have the time, give the whole thing a read. Until then, I'll link the appropriate page:

Memory Article

A big thanks for the work others did, Ill just use their templet.

Mobo:Asus A8N-SLI
Core(newcastle or winchester):Winchester
Speed:2600
Bus:235
Multiplier:11
Voltage:~1.475
Cooling:Zalman 7000cuF
Ram(speed ie:DDR400@stock):235MHz (470)
Latency(memory timings):2-2-2-5
Idle temps(C):~30c
Load temps(C):~44c


Here is a pic of the CPU/GPU under load, and the settings. I can do 240FSB@1:1 2-2-5, but have to up the volts to 1.5, so I just keep it where it is. I havent tried to find the max overclock, but it didnt strugle at 240fsb (2.64gig). Perhaps Ill try to raise it more, or even lower the multiplier.

I will try that memory change One4yu2c, thanks for the link.

edit, just tried it, and I got besically the exact same result, just one point higher when it had 10 instead of 5.