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 Post subject: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:54 pm 
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Alright, I'm new to the forums in general, so just gotta say that I'm glad to be here. I've been looking into to buying a new off-the-shelf comp for a while because what I'm running now is horrible outdated and was horribly underpowered even when it was new(For the curious types, it's an eMachines from early 2001.). So, after pricing a few computers, I figured I could get more bang-for-my-buck by building my own computer. After conducting further research I came up with a parts list, but since I'm a custom computer n00b, I figured I should seek advice on my (possible)future purchases before committing to anything. I'd like to use it as a casual gaming/visual media(like photo editing and such) comp. Alright onto the parts!(I had planned on posting links to all the parts, but Newegg was experiencing server problems...)

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
(^This I'm not too sure on...)

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

HIS H467QR1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

SONY Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A2000C9

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM


So, that's it. I'm looking for any compatibility issues, or maybe I could get something better for cheaper, or any advice in general. Thank you very much in advance.

Edit: Linked to all the parts and got a little more specific with usage.


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:02 pm 
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First off, welcome to the forum! And don't be afraid to post questions - most of us have been in your shoes at some point, and we don't bite (hard).

A couple points:
-What's your budget? Also, I tell this to all new people - if you have a budget, spend it. Don't spend $850, when you're willing (or budgeted) to spend $1000. If you do, you always think "if I only spent $X more and got that..." Set your budget, stick to it, and spend it.
-The RAM you selected will work with your motherboard, but you will have to fiddle with the BIOS/UEFI to get it to work at the correct speed. Since it is your first build, get a RAM speed (DDR3 1600) that is natively supported by the board. It's probably cheaper and the only difference you'll notice is your build was easier to get working.
-the 4670 is a bit dated. I will forewarn you I had trouble with a new build using the 4670 (the screen went blank during the OS setup)...BUT many people have not. Be sure to use HIS drivers (go to their website) - AMD has some basic drivers, but most AMD/ATI manufacturers tweak the drivers for their specific cards. And since we're on the subject...
-I prefer nVidia myself: drivers are more uniform and generally better. If you're going to stay with AMD/ATI, you may want to think about the 5770. If you're willing to try nVidia, this 450 is actually on sale with rebate.
-If you'll be doing more gaming than video editing, you might want to try the Phenom II x4 965 - this is a great CPU and ~$60 cheaper than the 1100. If you're doing more video editing than gaming, then stick with the CPU you selected.
-Nice case!
-Excellent PSU, but it is way more than you need. I tend to overshoot on PSUs and I think a good 600W would suffice. Still, if the Corsair 850 is a good deal, stick with it.
-Nothing is wrong with Win 7 Pro, but Home Premium is cheaper and has the Media Center (Pro does not). Unless there is something you need with Pro, Premium should be just fine.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:57 pm 
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btdog has made some very good points so I will add my 2ยข worth.
I added up what you where thinking of purchasing and came up with a budget at about $1000. Your items came to $981.91 so that's where I got that from.
I am not sure if you prefer AMD or not. I think that we can do either a AMD or Intel build. The i5-2500K is actually a bit better than the 1100T BE in almost everything and it is very close in everything else. If you want to go Intel that is where to start. The HDD you chose while good is a bit pricey when you can get a Samsung spinpoint F3 for roughly the same price and double you HDD size and it will run just as fast and a bit quieter.

You GPU could use a bit more muscle like btdog said maybe a 5770 it will give a bit more for not much more money. I also agree that Nvidia has a bit of a edge mainly because of its driver support and its compatibility so if you go that route a 550 or 560 would do you good.
The PSU is a bit much I would drop it down to a 650W from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic. All are very good brands and are very reliable.
Corsair vengeance memory is very good and for 8GB would be all that you need grab the DDR3-1600 so you don't have the headache of OC'ing it.
Let us know your opinions and we can steer you where you need to go. You nice a nice job overall everything would have worked even if it was a pain.


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:20 pm 
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Thank you guys so much. I suppose I'll answer questions in the order asked.

btdog
1) My budget is in the $1000 range. I'm willing to go over if need be.
2) Thanks for the tip. I had no idea. :D CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9W This is what I'm looking at now, on Wiked_smart's suggestion.
3) I'd actually like to go with nVidia if possible, as I've been pleased with them in the past. Thanks for the link.
4) As far as I can tell, I'm probably going to be doing more editing, but thanks anyway.
5) Again, had no idea. Thanks. :D
6) Thanks.
7) Home Premium, definitely. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium or Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM? Which one's the real one?

Wiked_smart
1) I'm just going to roll with what the CPU I've got now, but thanks anyway.
2) I like the idea of 1TB. I'll probably go with that. :mrgreen:
3) Since I'd prefer nVidia now, should I go for the 550-560 or the 450?(I picked the 560 for the sake of picking one for the list)
4) Definitely dropping the PSU. CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

Alright, so here is the revised list.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

GIGABYTE GV-N56GOC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9W

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Again, thanks for the quick responses and all the advice! (I was tired when I typed this, so forgive any inconsistencies that may be present.)


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:42 am 
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The gtx550 shouldn't even be considered as the older gen gtx460 beats it by 10% in almost every game for $30 cheaper. The 460 is the cheapest bang for buck low end nvidia budget gaming card, SLI them and you got the performance close to that of the 570 for $200ish. While the regular 560 is a fast card, spend the extra $20-30 for the TI version. It's worth the few bucks in the speed boost. You can find the TI's for about 210-230 now days.

Also, dont waste your money on the corsair TX650, its not worth the $110. You can find much better value PSU's for much cheaper. I'd recommend the Antec earthwatts 750 for $70AR + $2 shipping.


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:13 pm 
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Okay. Take three. :mrgreen:
Quick overview of changes in case you don't want to scan through all that just to see what's different.
1) I changed my DVD-ROM/CD-ROM reader/burner. I think it's still good.
2) I went for the EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti because it had the highest user rating. *shrug*
3) Changed to the Antec EarthWatts PSU.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9W

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Continuous Power Supply

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM


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 Post subject: Re: Yet another 'Help me build my first comp!' topic.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:40 am 
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just fyi, the flooding in Taiwan will create a shortage crisis in electronic components industry, including computer parts, for the foreseeable future. 14,000 factories are affected and includes name brand component manufacturers, specially Japanese brands, since they are heavily invested in that area.


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