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 Post subject: Help me build a $1400 gaming system
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:32 pm 
Little Foot
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I'm looking to build a new computer and I have $1400 to spend. I pretty much play games and browse the internet and play mp3's. I already have a monitor and speakers.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:34 pm 
Chief Surgeon
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Need some more info...

Games? What type? HL2, D3, etc. will require a pretty hefty graphics card.

Do you need an OS and apps listed? How about input devices?

SC64


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:02 pm 
Little Foot
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I mainly play HL2, CoD, battle for middle earth, battlefield 1942, hopefully battlefield 2 soon. I'll definitely need a good video card, I'd like to experience HL2 at 1600x1200 with all the goodies turned up. I was thinking X800 xl with a slight overclock. I dont need OS, I'll be getting xp pro for free from my school. Input devices I was thinking logitech, maybe mx510 mouse, dont know about the keyboard.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:50 pm 
8086
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Audio Card Audigy 2 Value $65.00
Case Cooler Master Cavalier 3 $79.98
CPU Heatsink XP-120 $48.99
Optical Drive NEC 3520A SV $59.99
Optical Drive Lite On SOHC-5232K $36.99
Floppy Drive Samsung 1.44MB 3.5inch $8.50
Hard Drive Some HD
Headsets Altec Lansing AHS-602 $53.00
Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard $13.00
Memory Corsair Value Ram $129.67
Motherboard DFI Lanparty UT Nf4 Ultra $145.00
Mouse Logitech MX-510 $36.00
Processor Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester $277.00
Speaker Logitech X-530 $52.00
Video Card ATI X800Pro (MSI) PCI-E $369.00
Thermal Compound Artic Silver 5 $7.59
Anti -Static Belkin Anti-Static $10.19
Power Supply Cooler Master Real Power (RS-450-ACLY) $69.99

This is my specs. It comes around 1500. So you can choose the parts and change it if you want. Its just an idea. :D. Feel free to change anything you want since it is your PC :D


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:36 pm 
Chief Surgeon
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Ok, now that we've got a good idea...

Prices are from www.newegg.com without shipping

Case: Antec SLK-3000B - $55.00
PSU: Antec NeoPower 480w - $120.00
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI - $175.00
Processor: AMD Athlon64 3500+ Retail - $281.00
Memory: (2) Corsair Value Select 512Mb DDR3200 - $64.67x2=$129.34
Hard Drive: Maxtor 160Gb SATA - $95.45
Optical Drive: [url=http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-966&depa=0]Lite-On 16x DL DVD Burner - $69.00
Video Card: BFG GeForce 6800GT 256Mb (SLI Capable) - $459.00
Sound Card (Optional. Can be added later): Creative Audigy2 Value OEM - $49.99
Keyboard: Logitech Internet Pro - $10.00
Mouse: Logitech MX510 Red - $32.00

Without the Audigy, cost is $1,425.79 without shipping. With the Audigy, it's $1,475.78. Here's why I've selected what I did.

Case. Unless you want a special, colored and lighted case, Antec's are possibly the best value.

PSU. Never, ever skimp on your power supply. This one is quiet, have the PCIe connectors, and is more than powerful enough today, and should be enough if you do go SLI.
Video Card. Why spend for the 6800Ultra when the GT can do 95% of it for $150 less? And this is SLI enabled, as is the mobo.
HDD. Raptors are nice. Raptors are fast. Raptors are $$$expensive$$$.

Edit: DUH! Forgot Optical Drive. :oops:

SC64


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:11 pm 
Little Foot
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Thanks for the great reply. Couple of questions. Why the geforce card over the X800 XL? http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-486&depa=0
Its $100 cheaper and the performance is the same and in some games better. I dont think I will ever utilize SLI because I dont have the money to buy a second video card. One question about the video cards the geforce has full DirectX 9.0C compliance whereas the ati doesnt. What exactly does this mean?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:14 pm 
8086
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Hey man, good taste in games! :) I'm a Battlfield Lifer. I'm building a system to play BF2 also. definitely (note that it is spelled correctly) get the X800XL. It's a great card.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:30 am 
Chief Surgeon
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bgshiznit wrote:
Thanks for the great reply. Couple of questions. Why the geforce card over the X800 XL? http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-486&depa=0
Its $100 cheaper and the performance is the same and in some games better. I dont think I will ever utilize SLI because I dont have the money to buy a second video card. One question about the video cards the geforce has full DirectX 9.0C compliance whereas the ati doesnt. What exactly does this mean?


I chose the GF6800 because of the possibility of upgrading to SLI. You can mix and match items from Kiltz's post and mine to your liking. :)

DX9c refers to Pixel Shader 3 compliance. ATI doesn't have it. But according to MaxPC's October(?), 2004 issue, PS3 compliant games probably won't appear until the end of 2005, and they'll be rare.

So, sub the X800XL for the 6800GT, then use the Audigy2 sound card. Bam! $1,425, plus shipping takes you home a VERY fast system.

It's your machine. We're offering suggestions. You build it to your taste. :)

SC64


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:31 pm 
Little Foot
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Any suggestion for a non sli AMD motherboard?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:34 pm 
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DFI NF4 Ultra-D. Be forewarned, this board is relatively new and has been having many problems with RAM, especially TCCD.


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