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 Post subject: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:21 am 
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This is my first attempt at building my own computer. After reading and reviewing as much as I could absorb, I created my own list.

This is for a gaming pc, Mostly RPGs such as Dragon Age 2, Witcher 2, and of course new ones coming like Skyrim. My main cavet is I do a lot of beta testing of MMOs and other Online games, So I wanted to stick with Nvidia graphics as they have a faster turn around time on patches and updates that are sometimes critcal to our beta cycles. ATI tends to be very very slow, I have waited up to a month for needed updates.

On my build I spent a bit more on the CPU, Mobo, and not as much on the GPU. My thinking here was that I replace, or upgrade (go to SLI) at least once a year on my GPU. But am hoping that the CPU and Mobo will last at least 3 years or more.


Here is my shopping cart, I have a 1000$ budget. How did I do by your way more expierenced standards? What would you change? And oh god.. is it all compatitable or have I missed some major point..lol


Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,come with Four Fans-2x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108
79.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
89.99

• Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
• LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.667920
Combo deal 72.98

• CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
• G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.669058
Combo Deal 102.98

• ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121391
189.99

• Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
• ASUS P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.657880
Combo Deal
394.98

Total 928.91 (Plus 50.00 in mail in rebates)


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 Post subject: Re: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:51 am 
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That 600w PSU isn't going to support SLI. Since SLI is your future plans I suggest a 850w and stick with the Corsair line.
I would also suggest Corsair RAM like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820233147 for the simple fact I've had far too many issues with G Skill in the past with faulty modules (there's a reason it's so cheap)
I suggest against the 460 and recommend the 560 if you're staying in the low-mid range for a card and want SLI later. Because thoughs 460's are going to get harder to find and the 5XX series has better scaling from what I've read.
That HDD is going to slow your computer down a good bit. I would suggest a raid 0 set up with a couple RE4 drives or going for a SSD.

I know I'm adding to your price some but I would assume that with being a beta tester you would need some quality parts that are decently fast and have future potential.


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 Post subject: Re: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:17 pm 
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The 600W PSU probably won't cut it for a dual card setup unless you were to reconsider AMD. Not sure when the last time you used AMD/ATI cards was, but I've had zero problems in the last 3 years. Fermi solutions in SLI would require a bit more juice.

There's nothing wrong with G.Skill RAM. I've used many sets over the years with no issues whatsoever. Folks have brand loyalties, but the majority of RAM chips are produced by the same fabs and re-branded so I've always found that a little laughable.

If I were in your place, I would look over some of the barebone combo deals attached to the Sandy Bridge K series CPU's. You're likely to save a lot more money that way. Case in point, the #1 2500K combo is the same price as what you've selected, but is a better build and buy in and of itself....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCo ... =10&page=1


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 Post subject: Re: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:17 am 
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vig1lant3 wrote:
If I were in your place, I would look over some of the barebone combo deals attached to the Sandy Bridge K series CPU's. You're likely to save a lot more money that way. Case in point, the #1 2500K combo is the same price as what you've selected, but is a better build and buy in and of itself....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCo ... =10&page=1

Looking at that first combo deal, that is the one I would shoot for it has everything but the OS that PSU should give you enough for 2 560Tis in SLI at most so that gives you the 550Ti, 560, and the 560Ti. If you need more power down the road step up to a 850W from Corsair or Seasonic and you will be good!
The RAM is sometimes a mixed bag but keep the voltage @1.5V and you should be good and look for a lifetime warranty (read the fine print.) I have used patriot memory in my i5 SB setup @1.65V and it runs just fine. so there is tolerances for your best bet l=take a look at the MBs QVL for memory.
Nice job on your first build and welcome to the forums!


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 Post subject: Re: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:57 am 
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VetteV12 wrote:
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I would also suggest Corsair RAM like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820233147 for the simple fact I've had far too many issues with G Skill in the past with faulty modules (there's a reason it's so cheap)


I know everyone has had different experiences, but the only RAM I have ever had die (runs fine for a while, then fails memtest86+ months later) is from Corsair. To their credit, they have a lifetime warranty, so that's something.

I've never had g.skill come DOA or fail, and I'm running it in my gaming PC and HTPC right now, never had any trouble with either.

As they say, your mileage may vary!

Edit: For reference sake, I've had single sticks from 2 different dual channel packs from Corsair fail, and one old stick of DDR from them fail back in the day also.


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 Post subject: Re: Good, bad or did I fail? :-)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:41 pm 
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Lynne wrote:
This is my first attempt at building my own computer. After reading and reviewing as much as I could absorb, I created my own list.

This is for a gaming pc, Mostly RPGs such as Dragon Age 2, Witcher 2, and of course new ones coming like Skyrim. My main cavet is I do a lot of beta testing of MMOs and other Online games, So I wanted to stick with Nvidia graphics as they have a faster turn around time on patches and updates that are sometimes critcal to our beta cycles. ATI tends to be very very slow, I have waited up to a month for needed updates.

On my build I spent a bit more on the CPU, Mobo, and not as much on the GPU. My thinking here was that I replace, or upgrade (go to SLI) at least once a year on my GPU. But am hoping that the CPU and Mobo will last at least 3 years or more.


Here is my shopping cart, I have a 1000$ budget. How did I do by your way more expierenced standards? What would you change? And oh god.. is it all compatitable or have I missed some major point..lol


Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,come with Four Fans-2x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108
79.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
89.99

• Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
• LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.667920
Combo deal 72.98

• CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
• G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.669058
Combo Deal 102.98

• ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121391
189.99

• Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
• ASUS P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.657880
Combo Deal
394.98

Total 928.91 (Plus 50.00 in mail in rebates)


Overall, a pretty good choice for a newbie builder. Only thing I would suggest is spend a little more and get a more powerful PSU. 600 watts may be fine for now, but is almost the bare minimum for most computers these days with the power-hungry components. I'd go at least 750 watts if I were you (for future upgrades and stuff like that). Other than that, it looks to be an OK setup.

But remember to keep check around once more before you actually do decide to buy--because $900 can build a very nice system if you price your parts out properly, and do some research, which it looks like you have. Reason for saying this because sometimes if you buy all 3 (CPU, board, and memory) some places may give you a bundle discount for buying all three. or They may throw in the RAM for free if you buy a board and processor together. ONly problem with these combos is the motherboard tends to suck. but check around, sometimes you can find a good deal that's of decent quality that can save a few dollars that you could use elsewhere in you build (for example, I got an Athlon quad core and an MSI motherboard from MicroCenter for $110 plus tax). The CPU alone was $90. So for an extra $20 I got a decent board to go with it. It was only marginally different than what I was looking at (A gigabyte board of similar specs), but in the end, this saved me $50, and Asus is a fairly reputable brand.

I've never had G.Skill RAM, but I've known people who have and haven't really heard any complaints. As long as you're steering clear of the real cheap stuff, then you should be fine. Main thing is to ask yourself what you want out of the computer.


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