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 Post subject: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:29 am 
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As the regulars know, I cant really afford the electricity to fold. Winter was great since the heat needed was supplemented by basically free folding power, and I pushed it a couple weeks into no heat/windows open time, but I can't push back the inevitable much longer, the A/C has been on for 2 days straight, I have to give it up soon :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

On a brighter note, the next update will put me into the top 250!!! Although I can't afford a 24/7 folding bill for the next 4 months or so, I do plan on folding a couple WUs here and there on colder days, and keeping an eye on my EOC stats so I can maintain my top 250 spot. When the weather cools off for a while, I don't want to make up the 20 spots or so I would have dropped If i give up cold turkey, so I'll still put up 60k every week or so.

I'm not planning on going anywhere, just not able to give it all for a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:51 pm 
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Hey R3D,

Summertime has been a bane of folding for many of the faithful over the years.

Being in Metro Atlanta, it gets hot as blazes here sometimes, but I've benefitted from folding in a daylight basement that only has the north wall exposed to something besides that nasty red clay.

The house is about 35 years old, and unfortunately was insulated like many southern homes built in the 70s.... before The Cave (basement) flooded last fall, it wasn't uncommon for the temp down there to dip into the low 40s on cold days. Back in my heyday, I had folding boxes all over the floor in The Cave, and the heat created a warm air blanket underneath the main level floor, and actually lowered our gas bill, so folding was a net positive for me.

We've done a lot of work to the place over the years, with the flood recovery being the big one - the basement is now insulated, so much so that even this past January when we woke up to single digit temps four different times, the basement stayed a full 20 degrees warmer than it ever had before.

Fold when you can - in the meantime, I'll try to get out ahead of you far enough that you can't catch up once September rolls around!

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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:57 pm 
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If you keep pullin 40k year round, I may never catch you... Although I do have plans to come back stronger than ever next fall... :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 4:54 pm 
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Dont feel bad, lots of folder have to stop in the summer time. For now I am find, but I may soon have to stop as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:34 pm 
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wow devastator! forgive me if its been asked before, but what are you folding on? 150kppd looks pretty nice!


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:44 pm 
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Luckily not a problem for me. No AC. I'll Fold until the equipment looks like it's ready to melt. Plotting on getting a 750 Ti. Hopefully that'll let me cut some costs down. Oh, congratulations on Top 250.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:25 am 
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When it actually gets and stays warm here, I'm contemplating shutting it down for the summer. I want to see the impact on my bills to gauge future efforts.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:33 am 
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R3D88 wrote:
wow devastator! forgive me if its been asked before, but what are you folding on? 150kppd looks pretty nice!


Most of those points are coming from dual 7870's that installed a couple of weeks ago. I also have a GTS 450 and 3 SMP CPU's.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:40 pm 
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devastator_2000 wrote:
R3D88 wrote:
wow devastator! forgive me if its been asked before, but what are you folding on? 150kppd looks pretty nice!


Most of those points are coming from dual 7870's that installed a couple of weeks ago. I also have a GTS 450 and 3 SMP CPU's.


Dual 7870s is pretty nice, its 2x what I got (well the 270x is like an OC'd 7870)


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:39 pm 
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to crwlngkngsnk , I recently purchased a Gigabyte GTX750 TI strictly to do folding on my HTPC. The Nvivia 750 series of cards is NOT supported by folding and in order to use one of those cards FAH has to use a much older version of it's which results not only in lower than what should be expected points for the GPU, but also lowers the points received for the CPU.

I am returning the GTX750 I ought and I will be purchasing a much better card in the 700 series when I can scrape up enough money.

Perhaps in a year or two after Nvidia releases the high end Maxwell GPUs and they are compatible to folding I will buy one of those high end GPUs if I can scrape up enough money.

The GTX750 TI that I purchased is producing points but at a much lower rate than expected, it is much lower than half of what my GTX760 is producing even though I was expecting it to be more than one half of what my GTX760 is producing.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:34 pm 
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So, what is it that keeps a GPU from being supported? I've read some stuff about a 'white list' (?) of supported cards, but not sure what goes into a card being included on that list or not. Is it usually a pretty quick process for new cards to be included? Is it based on demand from the folding community?


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:00 pm 
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It seems that F@H has some problems with the new Maxwell architecture, OpenCL+F@H+750=something is FUBAR. I thought that Core_15 WUs were ok, and that Core_17 struggled, but would work. That's just from the spotty and anecdotal evidence I've been able to glean from the Folding Forum. I think some of 750 Ti's are based on GK106 (Kepler) and some are GM107 (Maxwell). What kind of PPD were you seeing?

I'm glad to get a focused and reliable report from a 750 owner; I'm bummed because I was going to buy one before the month was out. Now what the hell am I supposed to do? Supposedly Stanford has been working on this issue, but that's been the case for some time now, with nothing coming to fruition. Man, I was really looking forward to it, too. It would still make a great HTPC card (I was going to use it for that also), but if it can't Fold, it's useless to me. Thanks for the heads-up. Back to the drawing board.

This is the GPU Whitelist. I guess just because it's on there, doesn't mean it works well, just that it works.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:01 am 
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To crwlngkngsnk, The fact that it reverted to an older SMP module/program to un on my CPU causing me to lose points for whatever the CPU folded was enough alone for me to get rid of my GTX 750 TI but to add insult to injury, it also processed work units under the GPU with a module which was less productive than the work units my main machine with a GTX 760 produced.

Based on what I have read, I was expecting a little over one half of what the GTX 760 produced but I was getting much less than one half of the GTX 760's production which rendered the GTX 750 TI totally unacceptable for folding purposes.

I was originally expecting to buy two or three GTX 750's for my HTPC so it would also be a folding machine but now that I can see what it actually produces I don't want to waste my time and money on it.

I am still very interested in what the full blown high end Maxwell's can do especially after they are converted to the smaller internal trace dimensions and I will be looking out for them especially if they fix their folding problems but until then, I simply can't recommend them for anyone intending to use them for folding.

For what it's worth, I have been working with mainframe computers since I got out of the army back in 1967. I have worked on several financial systems which literally handled billions of dollars in both bills generated as well as payments received.

For anyone who has ever received a bill from either Centel, GTE, AT&T, or Sprint, you have received a bill which I have done some critical programming on.

I have worked at International Harvester from 1979 to about 1984 handling their payments to supplier systems which tracked payments made to their various suppliers as well as serving as lead on their new Cash Disbursment System (CDS) which actually made the payments to various suppliers. I have also worked on their "Bill of Material Explosion and emplosion" system which tracked all of the parts used in building a car, truck, or piece of farm equipment.

I have also served as a "systems Specialist" at CENTEL (Central Telephone system) where I did important coding and testing on their multi million dollar development cost CUBS (Centel Unified Billing System) which was designed to handle any type of billing that may arise. While at Centel, I also served as a PC Coordinator maintaining all the PCs in my department.

I also worked at Blue Cross Blue Shield Association in Chicago on their IPDR (Inter Plan Data Reporting) system which handled the transfer of data among all of the legally distinct Blue Cross Blue Shield companies in each state.

I have owned my own consulting company and I have worked as a contracted " Systems Engineer" at GTE in Tampa on their new (at that time) CBAS (Customer Billing and Accounting System).

I feel that with my professional background at the highest levels in Data Processing I have enough experience to make a solid decision concerning any computer equipment that I may have encountered.

I retired back in December 200 after an auto accident left me in constant pain.


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 Post subject: Re: Well guys... the A/C is on :(
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:14 am 
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Well, after my original post I was down for about 12 hours, lol. I got a good 8 more days out of it thanks to some mild weather, but now, I'm going to actually be stopping :(

I made it another half a million though, I'll be updating my avatar to the big V now :)

As I said before, I'll continue to get a WU in here and there through the hot season. When I come back full swing though, I hope to do it with more power and I'll be aiming for that Top 100.


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