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 Post subject: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:13 pm 
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Okay, it's a loaded question to which I already know the answer... but if any of you were pondering that question and folding on a GPU, here's the cause. GPU core version 2.25 was just released. They are working on Kepler optimizations & so it seems that Fermi cards are suffering, this should only be a temporary situation as they work the bugs out & release even newer cores in the near future.

Performance under 2.25 for me personally is horrific. I'm talking up to 2 minutes per frame & 5,000 ppd worse than the same work units under core version 2.22. Stanford / Pande Group already know about the performance drop & were apparently expecting it. All we can do is either stop folding on the GPU & watch our average ppd drop even more, or wait for the next core update to come out.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:09 am 
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Appreaciate your taking the time to keep us updated on your thoughts of the differing "core versions" and their ramifications. Frankly, I'm more of a mechanic than a programming geek, etc. Bottom line "from your interpretations" we're in for at least a small dry spell in PPD and a certain amount of frustration in the use of Fermi gpus in f@h". Like I've already said though "it's good to know, with some certainty", WTF is going on, when my mechanicing hardly, if at all, succeeds to makes a dent in my personal, PPD.


Tell you what... if you and others are willing to help keep us in the know academically, in what's taking place, I'm willing to keep my machines tuned accordingly and hopefully in the right direction, for the good of the Team and of course, the Science, which keeps us in a common search for anything to stimulate Scientests' and Doctors' minds toward piecing together cures for us, our children and grandchildren.

Appreaciate the update.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:24 am 
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one thing that can be done is to revert back to the 2.22 core. That will help until the newer version gets downloaded again. A huge help is to fold beta units with a quick return bonus (QRB) (from all the buzz on the other forums). I've done the changes, but have had no joy yet. Maybe I didn't do something correctly. Here is the link on what to do to add the appropriate flags:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1727789

If you end up getting a unit, the points seem to be 3-4x 'normal'.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:18 am 
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Gero1369 wrote:
one thing that can be done is to revert back to the 2.22 core. That will help until the newer version gets downloaded again.


That would require some 'not quite kosher' hijinks. When 2.25 is downloaded, it replaces 2.22 & no backup of 2.22 is made, so the only way to get back to 2.22 is to copy it from a PC that has core version 2.22, but hasn't been running GPU units. Then you would have to do a few things that are against Stanford's terms of use...

Stanford is the big looser here with production reduced by as much as 40% on certain cards, that means that every day 2.25 is live, they are getting fewer completed GPU work units turned in. Fewer work units means slower progress on the science side of things.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:32 am 
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from what I saw on the [H] thread, they have updated v7 to use seperate folders for the 2.22 & 2.25. I think that there is a post on the [H] thread about it.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=103 ... tcount=255

more info on the new scoring on the folding forum:

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=22808


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:53 am 
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Gero1369 wrote:
from what I saw on the [H] thread, they have updated v7 to use seperate folders for the 2.22 & 2.25. I think that there is a post on the [H] thread about it.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=103 ... tcount=255

Bottom line is: that is a form of cheating, & though not strictly worded as being against the terms of use, they are skirting past the bounds of Stanford's wishes, kind of like folding "BigAdv" work units on 12-core systems through Virtual Machines.

If I hear correctly, current GPU work units will require a minimum core version of 2.25 in order to fold in the very near future... This means that anyone trying to work around it will simply not be able to fold.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:54 pm 
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I wouldn't really see it as cheating. The 2.22 version works better with Fermi cards and the 2.25 version doesn't work as well with Fermi, but seems to work better with Kepler. Yes, the newer WUs will force download the newer version, but I wouldn't try to stop that from happening. I'd wager that if Stanford wanted everyone to only be able to use the 2.25 core, they could likely do that. A 30-40% hit on PPD sucks any way you slice it.

Technically, overclocking a CPU or GPU is 'cheating' (by one entity or another). The point is that people still do it and it is generally accepted as a fine thing to do. I'm not here to argue about the ethics of swapping out one version for another of a core, I'm just letting people know that the possibility is out there for better performance. I haven't even done it myself.

On another point, I can't wait until the 'equal points for equal work' on the GPUs comes into full effect. From what I have seen, this is why the whole 3-5x points thing came up. I've got 3 GPUs waiting for the bump :)


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Gero1369 wrote:
I'd wager that if Stanford wanted everyone to only be able to use the 2.25 core, they could likely do that.

Like I said, if I hear correctly, they're already working on it. However the WU's that were already on the servers only require 2.22 & still need to be folded. Those could run out tonight, next week, next month...

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Technically, overclocking a CPU or GPU is 'cheating' (by one entity or another)


The only entity that matters is Stanford and they say overclocking is fine. It's like drag racing... if the governing body of a given race says Nos is fine to use, then it's not cheating if you use it, but if they say it's against the rules, and you use it anyway, you can be thrown out of the competition without compensation, & potentially banned from future competitions.

The difference between overclocking & what [H] does & you're suggesting, is that Stanford says overclocking is fine, but has asked that we not tamper with the client or the cores. Replacing a newer core with an older core is a form of tampering.

If all you care about is the points, then go ahead & swap out those cores.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:09 am 
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Like I said, if I hear correctly, they're already working on it. However the WU's that were already on the servers only require 2.22 & still need to be folded. Those could run out tonight, next week, next month...


Correct. I think they are already 'reigning in' the points. I have gotten a few of the units now and the points don't seem to be quite as high as what I've seen reported (though they are pretty nice :twisted: )

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The difference between overclocking & what [H] does & you're suggesting, is that Stanford says overclocking is fine, but has asked that we not tamper with the client or the cores. Replacing a newer core with an older core is a form of tampering.


In this case, the units that need the newer version of the core do a check and download the new version if it isn't present. Also, more science is able to be done with the older core (better TPF). While I don't do it, swapping could be seen as beneficial in that way (as well as in PPD). If Stanford explicitly said not to do it, I'd agree with them on that, but I haven't seen that they have.

I was just bringing it to the attention of the readers that you could get a good bump by adding the beta flag and also a little more bump by swapping.

From what I've read and see by dropping PPD, the newer core version performs ~30-40%+ worse when compared to the older version. Swapping has no ill effects on the amount of science done, and arguably has positive effects via quicker turn-around for WUs (and thus higher PPD).

If Stanford were really concerned they would have done better testing on the core version as to not hurt turn-around time so greatly on WUs already in the wild.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:34 am 
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I was just bringing it to the attention of the readers that you could get a good bump by adding the beta flag


And for that I say THANK YOU Two 8057's back to back averaging about 14,420 points credit & at 3min 22.3sec per frame, that's an average of more than 61,000ppd.

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13:37:33:WU02:FS00:0x15:Working on Giving Russians Opium May Alter Current Situation
13:37:33:WU02:FS00:0x15:Client config unavailable.
13:37:33:WU02:FS00:0x15:Starting GUI Server
13:38:33:WU02:FS00:0x15:Setting checkpoint frequency: 500000
13:38:33:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 3 out of 50000000 steps (0%).
13:41:56:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 500000 out of 50000000 steps (1%).
13:45:18:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 1000000 out of 50000000 steps (2%).
13:48:40:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 1500000 out of 50000000 steps (3%).
13:52:02:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 2000000 out of 50000000 steps (4%).
13:55:24:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 2500000 out of 50000000 steps (5%).
13:58:46:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 3000000 out of 50000000 steps (6%).
14:02:08:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 3500000 out of 50000000 steps (7%).
14:05:31:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 4000000 out of 50000000 steps (8%).
14:08:53:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 4500000 out of 50000000 steps (9%).
14:12:15:WU02:FS00:0x15:Completed 5000000 out of 50000000 steps (10%).


EDIT: Hm... looks like the "Code" tags need to be altered so that they display like they do over at Stanford's forums & don't unnecessarily lengthen the posts... replaced with "spoiler" tags.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:50 am 
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I seem to have left the 5187 PPD wus behind. I folded those for about a week before adding the beta flag. I downloaded a 8*** wu last night, worth over 100,000 PPD. On average, my PPD doubled! http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&u=137527

Thanks, for the tip! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Why is my average PPD dropping???
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:23 pm 
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jack5995 wrote:
... On average, my PPD doubled! http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&u=137527

Thanks, for the tip! :)


chaosdsm wrote:

And for that I say THANK YOU Two 8057's back to back averaging about 14,420 points credit & at 3min 22.3sec per frame, that's an average of more than 61,000ppd.


You're welcome! We're a month behind on the news, but I've seen a handful of the 8057s and I'm happy too! Over the past 24 hours, I'm around 81k PPD. Beats the heck out of 45-50k PPD :twisted:


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