Maximum PC

I posted one of these back a few months back, but didn't really get anywhere with it (plus, the system has changed a bit).

First apprasail:
Gaming Desktop computer
* Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L Motherboard (v1.1 or v1.1 -- not quite sure, it's not the latest revision, though)
* Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
* ATI Radeon 4850 PCI-Express video card w/ 512 MB of GDDR3 (it may be GDDR5, not sure)
* 500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM, 16MB cache Western Digital Blue drive)
* 4 GB of RAM (DDR2-800)
* Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (will include the DVD)
* 500 watt ATX Power supply (Antec EarthWatts)
* STandard ATX case

Approximate value (computer only as described above)?

Second appraisal:
Dell Inspiron 11z (1100) Laptop
* Intel Pentium Dual Core SU4100 at 1.3 GHz (2MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
* 4 GB of DDR2-800 RAM (maxed out, 1 stick)
* 500 GB Seagate SATA hard drive (8MB cache, 5400 RPM)
* Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
* 11.6" LED back-lit display
* Wireless 802.11b/g wireless card (internal, but I think it can be upgraded)
* Intel GMA X4500 MHD graphics with HDMI output (supports 720p formats)
Good condition - Works great - Includes a carrying bag (not that this will affect its value)
Plus I'm throwing in a USB dual layer DVD burner as well.

Suggested price for this computer? I am going to also include the manuals and the restore
DVD as well with the computer, if that affects the value any.

NOTE: both machines will only have their respective copies of Windows 7 installed. No additional software.

Where are you selling this?

For a few reasons. Mainly because my job requires me to use a CAD program, and Intel's onboard video doesn't work--it just crashes because it's not really supported. (BTW-I bought a E420 to try a few days back and may have made some positive comments about it, but it ended up not working out, so I went with a W series Lenovo Thinkpad that was built for CAD and has a CAD-certified video card).

I switched jobs since buying the Dell 11z laptop, so it doesn't really fit my needs anymore. That, and I don't want a second lappy sitting around doing nothing.

And for the gaming system, I don't really play many games much anymore (and I have a PS3 too). Played portal 2 and beat it, and don't really have anything else I want to play. That and I'd like to build a do a completely new system since the Core 2 Duo desktop is about 3.5-4 years old now (the video card isn't, but everything else--memory, motherboard, CPU--is around that age). Basically, what I do on the desktop now can very well be done on my new laptop (actually, the new lappy is much faster than my desktop--being it's a mobile Core i7 versus a Core 2 Duo--plus the laptop has 8GB of RAM and I found that I can play some games on it--even though the video card isn't designed for games so it's not the fastest card.

I'm trying to simplify things a bit... I don't need extra laptops and desktops sitting around, only to be used a handful of times per month. I just figured I try to get something for them for now because the longer I wait, the less they will be worth as time goes on, I guess.

There is nothing wrong with either system... they're just not really being used much any more. I don't have time for game playing anymore, and that's the primary reason I had the desktop to begin with.

He asked where... not why...

Fyi, the only consumer level gpu's that will work on CAD is the 8800gt, gtx285 and the gtx 295; all else is quadro and firepro.

Yeah. The varied economies on Ebay and Craigslist will make me give different prices. Also, Amazon has it's own economy, as does private trading/classifieds in the newspaper.