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 Post subject: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:25 pm 
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Question: I have an existing router a linksys E2500. I want to add another wireless router to create another wireless access point, because not all areas of the apartment is covered by the main router via wireless.

The apartment layout schematic is roughly like this:

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Router = linksys E2500
cable modem = Scientific Atlanta DPC2100R2

Situation: I want to connect the desktop computer 3 in the garage to the existing network, either wirelessly or hard wired. Ideally, I want to add a second wireless router, to create a wireless access point and connect desktop computer 3 (in garage/office) to the second access point via hard wire connection. I dont want to just get a simple access point device because my reasoning for using a second wireless router is if a router dies, I have a backup wirelss router I can use. The blue triangle defines where the existing wireless router and cable modem are located. The red star defines where coaxial cable is located.

Possible Solution(s): from what I understand, the linksys E2500 does not support WDS (wireless distribution system) out of the box. I have to install DD-WRT firmware to take advantage of WDS. Is this correct? So:

Solution #1: Install DD-WRT firmware on the linksys E2500. Purchase another wireless N router and connect that to the E2500 network.

Solution #2: Run cat5e from Bedroom1 to garage/office along same run as coaxial cable line (under the house/apartment in crawl space). There is a hole in floor where the coaxial cable access is in Master Bedroom and it runs to Bedroom1 and then to garage/office it is big enough to add a cat5e cable. I could connect another router to the linksys E2500 via cat5e, in the garage/office.

Not sure what other solutions/options I have. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know. Like I said, I would ultimately like to expand/improve the wireless area coverage overall in the apartment/duplex, and be able to connect to the second access point via hard wire, ideally, that is my goal.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:59 am 
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Since apartment implies renting, I wouldn't do anything that involves drilling holes and stuff. So... here's what I'd suggest.

  • Wireless option: Buy another router with a WAP mode. I have a Netgear router that does this and it works beautifully. All you have to do is say "you're a WAP" and that's it. Any device connecting to it is treated as if it's on the primary router (i.e., if your primary router's network IP starts with 192.168.1, then everything on the access point uses that same IP).
  • Wired option: Buy 100ft (or however long you need) CAT6 and just pin it along the wall.
  • Wired option 2: Get a power line network adapter.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:22 pm 
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what netgear router would you recommend that has WAP feature that would work with the linksys E2500? I might just buy a new router. I can do the wired option, I can simply run the line right next to the coaxial cable, I don't have to drill any holes, there are existing holes for the cable lines which when I looked, are big enough to accommodate an extra cable, ie. cat5e or cat6 line. my budget for a new router would be around 100 bucks or less, if its a little over 100 thats not a big deal.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:30 pm 
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I have a WNR2000v4.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:56 am 
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ok so:

I bought a wd my net 750n on newegg, because it was ridiculously cheap at ($30) and figured oh what the hey, ill try that for a wireless AP solution. wrong! not only does it not do wireless AP, cannot load dd wrt or tomato firmware on it. :|

so, returned that, for just a mere $15, rma fee, restocking fee, packaging materials fee, frustration fee, letdown fee, etc, etc. :|

ok, went to target, and they got the netgear wnr2000. I thought cool, Ill get that! Got home and set it up, and found that I cant setup wireless AP unless I use no wireless security. Cant use WPA2 or any type of wireless encryption. It basically is an open hotspot. I cant have it function like that in this location, there are too many neighbors. So this option isnt looking good. Went to tomato, nope, cant load that. Went to dd wrt, and only the wnr2000v2 and v3 are supported. What I got at target is a wrn2000v4! Blah.

Ok, so now what? I want a secure wireless AP solution dammit! lol. I would like to not have to do a wired to wireless AP solution if I can help it.

Anyone have any ideas?

Seems like the only solution is to wire them together using patch cable, from what I can tell, and then I can have a secure second wireless AP.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:03 am 
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That's strange, my WAP has security and all that. Assuming the firmware is up to date, it should be under Basic -> Wireless


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:52 am 
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I still have the netgear router, I haven't taken it back yet. I will double check the firmware version and look under basic>wireless and see if I can get it working from there. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:54 pm 
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Ok I'm looking at basic> wireless right now and I don't see any way to set-up wap. Firmware is v1.0.0.30


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:12 pm 
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this is what it looks like on that page:

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and here is what it looks like in advanced, wireless setup, wireless repeating function:

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what am I missing?


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:23 pm 
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Updating firmware to 1.0.0.40 now


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:36 pm 
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so, with the firmware update, I still dont see a way to create a WAP at basic>wireless, now I am curious how you are doing this. Here is a screenshot of the router with the firmware update, at the basic>wireless page:

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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:17 pm 
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Don't use the repeater function, use the AP function.

EDIT:
1. Set the router for wireless AP mode in Advanced -> Advanced Setup -> Wireless AP
2. Set the wireless network security in Advanced -> Setup -> Wireless Setup


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:00 pm 
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so do you connect the two routers together just to setup the AP? then can you remove the wired connection after? what happens if the main router does not have AP function in the admin controls? Do I have to use a firmware update that does? like DD-WRT or something like that? the main router is a linksys e2500.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:48 pm 
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The way Netgear's Wireless AP function works is that one of the Ethernet ports out of the main router goes into the Internet port of the Netgear router. There's nothing you need to do on the main router at all and Netgear's Wireless AP function makes it so that everyone joining that AP is on the same network as the main router's (i.e, if you network IP is 192.168.1.xx, then everyone on that AP will have that address).

It's pretty much idiot proof.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:03 pm 
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ok, but i was looking for a wireless option, this is a wired solution?


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:29 pm 
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Yes... but I thought you were okay with that. Wired's probably better anyway because you won't have a speed penalty.


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 Post subject: Re: linksys E2500 network upgrade to add WAP
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:53 pm 
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yes, I am ok with that, but somehow I was confused, and thought you meant wireless. :lol:

I can set this up wired, but its going to require me to go under the house and set this up for wired. Thanks for your help.


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