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 Post subject: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:28 pm 
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Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:07 am 
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I think you should use cobal. It's this super-hot new web programming language.


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:56 am 
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gamerfreak wrote:
Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


use FrontPage if it's faster, than clean it out with Notepad/Wordpad.


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yeah, frontpage throws A LOT of junk code in with it, that's what i generally do especially when dealing with tables, make the layout and such with frontpage real quick, then go in and edit everything out that's crap ...


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:30 pm 
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gamerfreak wrote:
Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


many hardcore HTML coders like to do it using notepad. I am one of them.


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:45 pm 
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emanresu wrote:
gamerfreak wrote:
Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


many hardcore HTML coders like to do it using notepad. I am one of them.


I second that. Front Page is the Suck!


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:15 pm 
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emanresu wrote:
many hardcore HTML coders like to do it using notepad. I am one of them.

i used to do that too, but after making an 80 page site completely in notepad, frontpage just seems to speed things up quite a bit ...


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:44 pm 
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gamerfreak wrote:
Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


Front Page is crap. Aboslute. Frontpage 2003 has some good redeeming qualities, but my choice for you my son is Dream Weaver MX or MX 2004.

Where would you get a silly idea that MS could get web authoring right?


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:48 pm 
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emanresu wrote:
gamerfreak wrote:
Should i go ahead and design my page with front page or stick it out with html


many hardcore HTML coders like to do it using notepad. I am one of them.


Notepad is useful for tweaking. Total development...you obviously don't create a lot of content.

One nice thing about Notepade is you can keep the crap to a minimum. However conceptually there's nothing better than developing in Dreamweaver MX or MX 2004 - no not a cheap solution, but it works, its powerful, and the content management is top rate.

Just the content management, in my opinion, is worth it. And you can still do the coder's view if you want a notepad like experience.


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 Post subject: Re: html or frontpage
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:52 pm 
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i used to do that too, but after making an 80 page site completely in notepad, frontpage just seems to speed things up quite a bit ...


Amen brother. I have a 200 page site I'm working on now http://www.geocities.com/wolfmannjack/ (by the end it'll be a lot bigger than 200 pages) and if I had to do it from notepad I'd be a lot worse off. It really is just basic HTML, but it's tables based and that's a lot of extra, unnecessary work - no wonder frames were used so much in the early days. For that reason I am using frames at this site for navigation to save bandwidth and load times http://www.chungwahmartialarts.com (it should be completed Oct 1).


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hell yeah, i still use tables and stuff all the time, i havnt moved on to the "new" stuff yet. i use Dreamweaver MX also, but i do still use frontpage if i wanna throw sumthin together real quick. then i use notepad or the code views to clean up the code cuz most of the time they throw in a lot of unneccesary BS code.


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Over the past month I switched from Frontpage to Dreamweaver MX 2004.. all I have to say is WOW... Dreamweaver offers so much more compared to Frontpage!


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You definitely have to give DreamWeaver MX a chance. I bought the program a couple of months ago after years of slaving through Notepad. You can save so much time this way, the money is well worth it.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:32 pm 
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Dreamweaver > Frontpage.

As for notepad ... NO serious coder uses notepad. WTH are you people thinking? Use an ide of some sort .. but notepad? For anything larger than a personal webpage, you're limiting yourself in a big way.

Also ... anyone who uses 'hardcore' and 'HTML coder' in the same sentence had BETTER be grinning while they do it.

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