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 Post subject: What do developers want?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:41 pm 
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What do developers want?

Damn good article - no fluff or BS. Be sure to check out the second page.


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What do developers want?

Damn good article - no fluff or BS. Be sure to check out the second page.


Very interesting. I bet many here are happy to read about the increased popularity of Python. :wink:


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i like python, easy to pick up and go with.


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 Post subject: Re: What do developers want?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:36 pm 
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Gadget wrote:
What do developers want?

Damn good article - no fluff or BS. Be sure to check out the second page.


Python was actually mentioned???


And they laugh at me!!

Just you wait!!

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MantaBase wrote:
Gadget wrote:
What do developers want?

Damn good article - no fluff or BS. Be sure to check out the second page.


Python was actually mentioned???

Yep, it actually has 3% more than 'other scripting language' and is 5% behind php. Not bad.

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And they laugh at me!!
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Well, don't start a dance in your pants just yet. :) There is quite a ways to go and, it didn't receive a seperate category here, and probably won't make any big jumps until someone here really starts to support it.


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I find it funny that the most popular language is Java, but the most popular framework is .NET. J2EE was third to Linux/Unix... huh? WTF? That last time I checked Linux/Unix wasn't a web service framework, or even an API.

If J# ever becomes popular I'll stab myself in the neck. I'd rather just stick with Java 1.5/5.0, but we all know C# is teh kewl.

I see some issues with their surveys. One is the Technology one. I don't know how VB.NET is a "technology" when Microsoft .NET is the technology. XML isn't a technology, either...well it is...but it supports just about every one of the other categories. Just kinda shows a naivety of purpose.

I will give it a full read, though when I get a moment.


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I find it funny that the most popular language is Java, but the most popular framework is .NET. J2EE was third to Linux/Unix... huh? WTF? That last time I checked Linux/Unix wasn't a web service framework, or even an API.

Yeah, I think they kind of dropped the ball on that one. A couple of observations. A framework doesn't have to be based on the idea of web development, so linux/unix is ok, but they're lumping a bunch of seperate api's into one category (probably posix and some others). Second, if they're going to allow non-web development frameworks, they should have lumped together j2se/j2ee/j2me into a single catagory imo (after all, .NET is more than just web dev). Third, .NET is probably punching a bit above it's weight right now because a lot of companies and people who used VS 6 migrated to VS .NET due to the craptaculur number of standards problems with the older product (speaking in terms of C++). I doubt all of these developers use the .NET framework or even realize what a framework is. They're typical C++ developers, writing normal applications, that like VS and wanted better C++ compliance.

Also, even though the Java 2 Framework unofficially supports 6 or more languages, by far the number one language is Java, which is not the same with the MS framework. Having two popular langauges (vb and cpp) sort of dilutes them.

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If J# ever becomes popular I'll stab myself in the neck.

I'll join you. :)

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I see some issues with their surveys. One is the Technology one. I don't know how VB.NET is a "technology" when Microsoft .NET is the technology. XML isn't a technology, either...well it is...but it supports just about every one of the other categories.

I think what they're trying to show is that 51% are planning on using the .NET framework, 42% of VB programmers are going to migrate to VB .NET, and that not too many of them are planning on switching over to C#.


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Gadget...I think that article is representative of a young writer and inexperienced editors. It needs a lot of tightening up.

Otherwise, still a good read!

Bring it on! lol.


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Wolfmann wrote:
Gadget...I think that article is representative of a young writer and inexperienced editors. It needs a lot of tightening up.

Otherwise, still a good read!

Bring it on! lol.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say inexperienced editors. Eweek has consistently been one of the better sites for reporting IT news imo. I think part of it is that they haven't explained their methodolgy which has left us grasping for their ideas.


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Gadget wrote:
Wolfmann wrote:
Gadget...I think that article is representative of a young writer and inexperienced editors. It needs a lot of tightening up.

Otherwise, still a good read!

Bring it on! lol.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say inexperienced editors. Eweek has consistently been one of the better sites for reporting IT news imo. I think part of it is that they haven't explained their methodolgy which has left us grasping for their ideas.


The inexperience of writers should not make it past experienced editors. I liked the article, it was revealing, but just had some large issues with the categorization of solutions. Under a little scrutiny, a good editor would be able to tighten it up.


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