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 Post subject: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:33 pm 
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So as far as Java goes, it is still a security issue as it was about a year ago? I have a few small projects I'd like to do that need to be cross-platform compatible (and they also need to be desktop based--not web based). Is it "safe" to use Java at this time?


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:25 pm 
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Sure. As long as it's up to date.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:24 pm 
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I would say no for three reasons. 1) You can't always count on it being up to date (a problem with any program), 2) Java vulnerabilities are discovered frequently (there are a lot of new ones), and 3) java's patch cycle isn't the greatest to say the least.

I'd suggest listening to the pauldotcom podcast; they're entertaining and they have semi-frequent rants about java.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:39 pm 
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Points aside, what are you making that it cannot be web based?

Because the only other option you have is C.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:47 am 
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Points aside, what are you making that it cannot be web based?

Because the only other option you have is C.



Well, I suppooose he could try using python/perl. There are Desktop-compatible apis with them, even though they don't compile to normal executables...


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:37 pm 
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When multibillion dollar corps use Java for public-facing applications, I think it is safe to say that Java is not the issue.

Corps that use Java extensively: Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Salesforce, Netflix, Hadoop ...


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:53 am 
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Jipstyle wrote:
When multibillion dollar corps use Java for public-facing applications, I think it is safe to say that Java is not the issue.

Corps that use Java extensively: Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Salesforce, Netflix, Hadoop ...


Google uses python. Facebook uses PHP. Hadoop isn't a corp.

Java has extensive security holes for sure. First hand knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:04 am 
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Google uses Java on Android.

The problem isn't the Java language itself. It's the JVM. Common Language Infrastructure based languages (C#, Visual Basic.NET, etc.) run in a similar setup as Java.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:56 am 
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kkith wrote:
Jipstyle wrote:
When multibillion dollar corps use Java for public-facing applications, I think it is safe to say that Java is not the issue.

Corps that use Java extensively: Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Salesforce, Netflix, Hadoop ...


Google uses python. Facebook uses PHP. Hadoop isn't a corp.

Java has extensive security holes for sure. First hand knowledge.


All of the above use java.

First hand knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:42 pm 
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Since someone brought the thread out of retirement....

Netflix does not need Java, it may use it if you have it installed, but I've watched streaming Netflix for years without Java installed on my computers.

However, I now have to have Java installed (since January of this year) because of Cisco's Networking Academy online exams for my CCNA classes, and the current version of Java seems to be highly geared towards security.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:23 pm 
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Netflix used Silverlight last I checked.


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 Post subject: Re: The veridct on Java
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:37 pm 
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When I interviewed at Netflix, Java was a requirement for working there and was part of the test.

There is a lot more to Netflix that than the front-end that runs on your PC.


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