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 Post subject: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:09 am 
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Hallo there guys, I'm considering buying a 5.1 Surround Sound System for my computer, budget around 70-100€. I don't know much on the subject, what to take in consideration etc.

I'll start with my hardware, I have a custom built pc with an Asus Rampage III formula witch supports up to 7.1 audio systems.

I made a little research and found two candidates:
1)Creative Inspire T6160 5.1 Speakers @65€ (http://tinyurl.com/cv7qlg5)
2)Logitech Surround Sound Speakers Z506 @80€ (http://tinyurl.com/42nyzoa)

Witch one is the best, pros and cons? I'm gonna use the system for gaming and movies, in a 15m² room. Also is there any 7.1 sound system in that price range?

If you have any suggestion don't hesitate to enlighten me. Thank you.

P.S. Later in September I'm gonna buy a new 32" TV and I'll connect my PC via HDMI, I know that with HDMI you can stream audio too, to the TV, but I would like to use the sound system, is it possible? Sorry if I'm sounding too nooby, but I don't know jack! :p


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:47 am 
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Reviews say the Z506 is superior, but I just did a quick browsing. You should do some homework yourself :P

There's also no 7.1 system available for PCs. Besides that, they're kind of unruly to set up. 5.1 is bad enough as it is.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:17 am 
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cyber_marco wrote:
P.S. Later in September I'm gonna buy a new 32" TV and I'll connect my PC via HDMI, I know that with HDMI you can stream audio too, to the TV, but I would like to use the sound system, is it possible? Sorry if I'm sounding too nooby, but I don't know jack! :p


HDMI from the video card will be converted to stereo by the TV for its 2 speakers. digital audio out from the TV (think digital pass through like the PC audio, not from the TVs tuner) will still be stereo.

but you can just specify the PC speakers for the output (IE no audio through HDMI) and it will work fine in 5.1


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:07 am 
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LatiosXT wrote:
Reviews say the Z506 is superior, but I just did a quick browsing. You should do some homework yourself :P

Yeah, I noticed that, plus with the Logitech system you can hook up consoles too.

CharBroiled wrote:
HDMI from the video card will be converted to stereo by the TV for its 2 speakers. digital audio out from the TV (think digital pass through like the PC audio, not from the TVs tuner) will still be stereo.

but you can just specify the PC speakers for the output (IE no audio through HDMI) and it will work fine in 5.1


Thanks for that info.

Plus i found a Home Theater LG HT356SD, 5.1 300W power :shock: for 90€ http://tinyurl.com/bnzzf2v
Is it possible to connect it to the PC like the Logitech or Creative sound systems? I think it'll be an overkill!
What do you think?


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:58 am 
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It looks mediocre at best for a home system. My X-530 system pretty matches it performance wise on paper. And that was a $50 setup when I got it.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:07 pm 
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cyber_marco wrote:
Plus i found a Home Theater LG HT356SD, 5.1 300W power :shock: for 90€ http://tinyurl.com/bnzzf2v
Is it possible to connect it to the PC like the Logitech or Creative sound systems? I think it'll be an overkill!
What do you think?


it aint no 300 watts RMS, thats for sure. download the manual, it states the whole thing draws 45 watts @ 220 volts. since you cant create power (watts) out of thin air, the whole system cant put out more that 45 watts RMS to the speakers. that 300 watt figure is the typical lie they (many companies that are not serious about audio) toss at you. one channel @ 1 khz and 1 % THD (their spec from the manual, and they dont state if thats RMS or instantaneous power so its almost a certainly its instantaneous - IE split second only) is what it can do. add the other 4 channels and each channels power output drops, as all channels combined cannot push more than 45 watts RMS without going over the units power draw from the wall.

go with the logitechs. thier specs are still a bit fudged but they are much more real world.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:11 pm 
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300W RMS is total RMS power. It's 45W x 5 speakers plus a 75W sub.

I've seen speaker specs laid out like this all the time. It's like the contrast ratio crap. Displays are at most 1000:1, but we have cheaper companies coming up with marketing terms out of aether such as "dynamic contrast" and bogus specs of 1,000,000:1 (I've even seen infinite contrast ratio, which would imply the display is a black hole). Companies doing cheaper stuff start this trend to woo in customers, and if the other's don't advertise it, you have "well how come you don't do [bogus spec]?"


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:01 am 
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Maybe I forgot to mention my budget is around 100€. I'm trying to find the best bang for the buck.

As for the Home Theater, I would only use the speakers, if they have the same connections as the Logitech system.

So you say the best in my case is the Logitech then.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:28 am 
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Making some more research I found this one: Pioneer S-V41 @79€, Satellites:80W Woofer:50W http://tinyurl.com/c77a4fv

Is this any good?


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:40 pm 
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cyber_marco wrote:
Making some more research I found this one: Pioneer S-V41 @79€, Satellites:80W Woofer:50W http://tinyurl.com/c77a4fv

Is this any good?


only the sub is powered. you need an amp for the other 5 speakers. so you would need a 5.1 receiver that is (ideally) around 50 watts RMS per channel.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:47 am 
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CharBroiled wrote:
cyber_marco wrote:
Making some more research I found this one: Pioneer S-V41 @79€, Satellites:80W Woofer:50W http://tinyurl.com/c77a4fv

Is this any good?


only the sub is powered. you need an amp for the other 5 speakers. so you would need a 5.1 receiver that is (ideally) around 50 watts RMS per channel.



So you say that by installing the Pioneer alone isn't enough, I'll need to hook an amp?


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:20 am 
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cyber_marco wrote:
So you say that by installing the Pioneer alone isn't enough, I'll need to hook an amp?


yup. its 5 unpowered speakers and a powered sub. typical speaker package as 5.1 receivers power the 5 channels but not the sub channel.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:19 am 
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CharBroiled wrote:
cyber_marco wrote:
So you say that by installing the Pioneer alone isn't enough, I'll need to hook an amp?


yup. its 5 unpowered speakers and a powered sub. typical speaker package as 5.1 receivers power the 5 channels but not the sub channel.


Too bad. :(

I found these too:
Genius SW-HF5.1 4000 @63€ http://tinyurl.com/cjvujat
Genius SW-HF5.1 5050 @110€ http://tinyurl.com/84chrxw

The 1st is 100W powerful and the 2nd is 150W.

Another thing that i want to understand is how does a sound system connect to a sound card (on board) like the one that I have. http://tinyurl.com/7s6ckkp

Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: 5.1 Surround Sound System for PC
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:48 am 
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either of those 2 will work with your PC out of the box and seem pretty decent, although the 4000 needs a couple more cables; see below. all channels are powered and they both have discreet 5.1 analog inputs (which you will use to hookup to your on board sound). if you can swing it the 5050 is better as it has 2 way speakers on the mains/surrounds as well as more power.

connecting it to your PC is straightforward. you use three 3.5mm to 2RCA cables. 3.5mm on the computer side, RCAs on the speaker systems inputs. the PC and the speakers systems inputs are labeled, and you can use the PCs audio utils to verify proper hookup.

the 5050 has all cables youll need. the 4000 only has one of the 3.5 mm to 2 RCA cables, youll need 2 more. you can get those anywhere, even most drug stores carry them for a few bucks each.

about the only unknown is the 3.5mm to 2RCA cable lengths. depends on your layout. you can buy extensions pretty cheap, so its not a big deal if they are too short.


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