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 Post subject: PROBLEMS, NAV2005.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:24 am 
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I have been using NAV for years. Hence, when I anticipated getting a new rig, I bought a copy of NAV 2005. What a mistake! Each time I boot my computer, the NAV "Auto-Enable" is turned off. I have been though all the fixes on symantec's web site pertaining to the error message, but nothing works.
After approximayely five plus minutes, the "Auto-Enable" works - a miracle.
According to the Symantec data base, there is a conflict between "Creative MediaSource Go" - software included with the Audigy 2 ZS card - & NAV 2005.
I have seen multiple other postings concern this issue. It would appear from that which I have read that Symantec cannot/will not fix the problem at this time.

$30 & my time WASTED - and several migraines.


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Get AVG 7.0 Free and call it a day. Norton is absolutely horrible software IMO.


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Ya. I made the switch, and saw free RAM go up from ~500MB to around 750MB (I have a gig but I'll whine anyway)


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AVG is so much better than NAV, one of my friends had NAV 2004 on his laptop, fully updated, i disabled, and installed AVG, and before it was even upgraded i was already starting to find viruses, all together i found 65 viruses with AVG that nortan didn't find


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEMS, NAV2005.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:48 am 
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L_M_Damiani wrote:
I have been using NAV for years. Hence, when I anticipated getting a new rig, I bought a copy of NAV 2005. What a mistake! Each time I boot my computer, the NAV "Auto-Enable" is turned off. I have been though all the fixes on symantec's web site pertaining to the error message, but nothing works.
After approximayely five plus minutes, the "Auto-Enable" works - a miracle.
According to the Symantec data base, there is a conflict between "Creative MediaSource Go" - software included with the Audigy 2 ZS card - & NAV 2005.
I have seen multiple other postings concern this issue. It would appear from that which I have read that Symantec cannot/will not fix the problem at this time.

$30 & my time WASTED - and several migraines.

I had the same EXACT problem as you when I installed my brand new, freshly purchased copy of Norton AntiVirus 2005. I, too, have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card and found that NAV '05 would disable it due to conflicts with Creatives Go program.

I found that in order to fix this problem, that going to Run -> msconfig -> Services tab and then clicking the Creative Go box to not allow it to run on start up fixes the problem, which it does. NAV '05 starts up everytime ENabled and anytime I need the to access the soundcards settings, I just go through my Start Menu settings and find the specific feature I need, instead of loading up Go with all of the features at one time.

Besides, you really don't need Go to be on 100% of the time anyway. Unless you need fast access to the various volume and EQ controls at a moments notice, you can just go through the Start Menu in the Creative folder and find whatever feature it is you need to mess with instead of having to load up Go every time to get to it which in the end, shuts down NAV '05.

You might be interested in this link if you think you have problems, lol.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEMS, NAV2005.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:21 am 
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garetjax wrote:
L_M_Damiani wrote:
I have been using NAV for years. Hence, when I anticipated getting a new rig, I bought a copy of NAV 2005. What a mistake! Each time I boot my computer, the NAV "Auto-Enable" is turned off. I have been though all the fixes on symantec's web site pertaining to the error message, but nothing works.
After approximayely five plus minutes, the "Auto-Enable" works - a miracle.
According to the Symantec data base, there is a conflict between "Creative MediaSource Go" - software included with the Audigy 2 ZS card - & NAV 2005.
I have seen multiple other postings concern this issue. It would appear from that which I have read that Symantec cannot/will not fix the problem at this time.

$30 & my time WASTED - and several migraines.

I had the same EXACT problem as you when I installed my brand new, freshly purchased copy of Norton AntiVirus 2005. I, too, have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card and found that NAV '05 would disable it due to conflicts with Creatives Go program.

I found that in order to fix this problem, that going to Run -> msconfig -> Services tab and then clicking the Creative Go box to not allow it to run on start up fixes the problem, which it does. NAV '05 starts up everytime ENabled and anytime I need the to access the soundcards settings, I just go through my Start Menu settings and find the specific feature I need, instead of loading up Go with all of the features at one time.

Besides, you really don't need Go to be on 100% of the time anyway. Unless you need fast access to the various volume and EQ controls at a moments notice, you can just go through the Start Menu in the Creative folder and find whatever feature it is you need to mess with instead of having to load up Go every time to get to it which in the end, shuts down NAV '05.

You might be interested in this link if you think you have problems, lol.

Thank you for your imput & the link to MPC Forum.
I had considered disabling "Go" in MSCONFIG. However, I did not feel that I should have to do so. Symantec/Norton should have released a FIX for NAV2005 such that their antivirus program "played well with others."
Unfortunately, they are a classic example of near sighted arrogance.
1. They acknowledge the problem. Yet, they refuse to fix same.
2. They are NO LONGER a "big fish in a little pond." There are several companies producing antivirus programs that may be just as good - if not better - as NAV2005.
I downloaded AVG Professional 7.0 - Trial Version, and it appears to be doing as good a job - if not better - than my previous copy of NAV2003.
Of note, during the installation of AVG Pro, it referenced a possible conflict with Roxio's Easy Media Creator V7.0. I have NOT encounter a problem.
I have 30 days on my "trial version" in order to make up my mind whether to spend the $33 for a TWO YEAR license for AVG Pro.
I can remember when Symantec charged $9.95/year. Now, it must be at least $20/year for the upgrades. Two years of Symantec upgrades are more expensive than the inital cost of AVG Pro - which includes a two year upgrade license.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEMS, NAV2005.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:14 am 
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L_M_Damiani wrote:
Thank you for your imput & the link to MPC Forum.
I had considered disabling "Go" in MSCONFIG. However, I did not feel that I should have to do so. Symantec/Norton should have released a FIX for NAV2005 such that their antivirus program "played well with others."
Unfortunately, they are a classic example of near sighted arrogance.
1. They acknowledge the problem. Yet, they refuse to fix same.
2. They are NO LONGER a "big fish in a little pond." There are several companies producing antivirus programs that may be just as good - if not better - as NAV2005.
I downloaded AVG Professional 7.0 - Trial Version, and it appears to be doing as good a job - if not better - than my previous copy of NAV2003.
Of note, during the installation of AVG Pro, it referenced a possible conflict with Roxio's Easy Media Creator V7.0. I have NOT encounter a problem.
I have 30 days on my "trial version" in order to make up my mind whether to spend the $33 for a TWO YEAR license for AVG Pro.
I can remember when Symantec charged $9.95/year. Now, it must be at least $20/year for the upgrades. Two years of Symantec upgrades are more expensive than the inital cost of AVG Pro - which includes a two year upgrade license.

All of your points are valid, and to be honest, make a lot of sense. I do agree that it is bullshit that Norton refuses to fix the problem, and would instead reccomend turing off features of other programs in order for theirs to work right. I imagine that if Norton does not get their shit together they will soon be losing two potential customers of their products: my wife and I. That coupled with the fact that I will and can no longer reccomend their products to friends and family.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:51 am 
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Norton was good back in the Windows 95 days.

I fell for all their hype and been using their products up to 2005. I've realized that I had been missing out on the real deal! What a waste of money!!

Today, IMHO, it's a disgusting disguise, and not worth a penny.

Moreover, I find that AVG doesn't give me many options to choose from, which is why I switched to Kaspersky's. Viruses often hide in archived and compressed files, where most antivirus solutions have trouble finding them. Not Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Pro. This solution scans over 900 types of archived and compressed files and even disinfects ZIP files.

On a test that I performed with a friend's laptop which was severely infected from 3 years of surfing for keygens, hacks, and porn without an anti-virus, we decided to use NAV, AVG, and KAV to see who would pull the most viri, and trojans on his laptop. Here are the results....

Norton found 48 varieties, AVG picked up on 118, after those two products, Kaspersky AV Pro found a whopping 276 infections!!

In my personal expierence after countless XP reinstalls due to various file sharing program infections, I no longer have to reinstall an OS simply because Kasperky has proven it's reliability.

Download Kaspersky Anti-Virus Pro and you will see how inferior other products are.
http://www.kaspersky.com/personalpro

Resources are freed up bigtime, but it doesn't loose it's ability to effectively probe your machine. You will not be disappointed.


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