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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:02 pm 
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After grazing through the, now annual, toolbox compilation in this last issue I have one item (for now) that I think should be added.

With Intel going the way of pin-less CPU's with the Socket 775/T, I've found a new tool being of high usage around my place...the vacuum pen. An example can be seen here. With the Skt-T units, every manual or direction I've seen on installation and handling has been very specific not to drop the CPU into the socket, but rather placed in. With the vacuum pen, you simply pick it up with the pen, place it in the socket, and viola...nice and gentle handling.

From the first time I handled my 550, I noticed that this was a fine time to break out the vacuum pen. I've sinced had it in 3 different MOBO's and probably installed in and out of a socket over 30 times due to tinkering. I belive that Intel is also assuming that Joe Civilian is going to totally disregard the "do not drop CPU into socket" warning and is the reasoning for the very limited number of insertions they place on a unit. Hopefully, when armed with a vacuum pen, this number isn't quite so low in reality.

Oh, and there's cheaper models besides that slim-Vac and many different brands...that's just the tool I have. It's aluminum in construction and I wouldn't trust the plastic ones in a toolbox environment...well...not mine anyways.

And while we're on tools, It's worth mentioning that Snap-On doesn't sell that specific ratcheting screwdriver anymore unless you find a left-over on the truck (if one passes by). The new ones are nice as well with the same design basically, but with a softer grip than the hard plastic. But anyway, every screw or nut driver I carry for electrical work is a)magnatized AND b) has a piece of heatshrink shrunk over the shank...just in case;)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:13 pm 
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The new pinless CPU's are the prescotts right?


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Very nice. I don't build or renovate too many systems, but it is just the thing for small inlay work for the things I carve. Thanks for the link!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:18 pm 
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yes a small vacuum can be very usefull. i work on a wooden workbench and occasionally i get crap stuck in ram slots or inbetween pins and my trusty mini-vac type thing is great. also in a mobo i just bought one of the screws was enclosed with crap around it. my fingers couldnt place the screw in so the mini vac came out and did the job. mini vac gets a high reccommendation from me as well


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urmumsacow wrote:
The new pinless CPU's are the prescotts right?


well, kinda. It is more a formfactor change than a chip change. I believe all LGA 775 (pinless) cpu's are Prescotts, but not all Prescotts are pinless.


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Correct.


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Ah, good to know.


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 Post subject: Re: Addition to the tool box
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:47 am 
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I have a better solution: Athlon64 :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:47 pm 
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Note: it's not a vacuum, per say, that runs or anything like that. It's basically a tube with a plunger. you push the button, and it makes a one-time "suck" to pick up an item...or, a different design of tweezers as it picks up from the flat top surface and not the sides.

The deal is, it's a nice addition to any toolbox...pinless or not. I'd go on to say that AMD'ers need this even more than even the pin-less Intel dudes do. See, every piece of hardware that must be handled by your fingers runs the chances of getting zapped with ESD. Even more so if you have pins as they protrude out just asking to get zapped. They usually give you enough substrate to grab a hold of, but your skin can fold around and get close enough for a discharge. Intel tests/quals their units for ESD type hits, and even has data on how many times an average human hand can touch a pin or contact before dropping out. I have no idea about AMD's testing practices, but they aren't immune...and I don't know why anyone would think they are.

The reason I mention 775 socket-T's pointedly is due to the fact that there is no way to really "place" the CPU in the socket. No mater how close you can get it, at some point you still drop it in. With the pin, you can actually place it in there.

And don't fool yourself. There's been a lot of ranting and raving about using anti-static devices, and everyone says they comply. I highly doubt it. I'm exsessive compulsive (hence, the long posts:p), so I use the pin. I also build wearing an antistatic lab coat, boot straps, and just maybe a wrist strap plugged to the table. the fact that I build in a lab that requires this (on breaks or weekends when it isn't busy) brings to question weather I'd do this at home...and the answer is "NO"...just the vacuum pin. So....long story rapped up, the pin negates having to go through all this trouble in grounding out and the dorky dress ware that I am betting less than .01% of builders actually own.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:49 pm 
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Great suggestion. My three times out with a P4 550 proved to me that you need something other than fingers.

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