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 Post subject: Your RAID tests, try RAID 1 for a change!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:29 pm 
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Why on earth are you guys only using RAID 0 and complaining that RAID performance is no different or worse for games? Why don't you give RAID 1 a try since read performance is improved. And logically games will benefit from the increase in read performance (load times).


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 Post subject: Re: Your RAID tests, try RAID 1 for a change!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:22 am 
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Alex T. wrote:
Why on earth are you guys only using RAID 0 and complaining that RAID performance is no different or worse for games? Why don't you give RAID 1 a try since read performance is improved.


Because everybody seems to use RAID 0 (for whatever reason) to "benefit" their machine's gaming performance.

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And logically games will benefit from the increase in read performance (load times).


I'm not entirely sure that's true. RAID 1 is about mirroring, not performance. Even if it is true, nobody cares that much about load times.


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 Post subject: Re: Your RAID tests, try RAID 1 for a change!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:05 pm 
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Alex T. wrote:
Why on earth are you guys only using RAID 0 and complaining that RAID performance is no different or worse for games? Why don't you give RAID 1 a try since read performance is improved. And logically games will benefit from the increase in read performance (load times).


RAID 1 is essentially the same performance as one drive.

That said, load times can be improved dramatically by increasing the amount of RAM in your system.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:13 pm 
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Raid 1 provides read times that are improved over a single drive, but they are not faster than RAID 0 times, at least as far as benchmarks are concerned.

Therefore, if we're doing tests to see the speed benefits of RAID, it makes sense to use RAID 0 because:

1. It's the fastest, most common form of RAID for home users
2. It's much faster in benchmarks than RAID 1


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:03 pm 
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Josh,

Okay, so it's been "proven" that for typical desktop use, RAID has little if any advantage over a single drive.

What about for servers? Can a SCSI RAID handle, e.g., more I/O's per second than a single drive? Thx!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:06 am 
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I say get 4 WD 74GB Raptors in a RAID 0+1 config and give that a go on the new Intel 925 chipset board, which has the new ICH6 southbridge that has support 4 SATA ports plus RAID 0+1. I would also try testing this config using a highend 3ware SATA RAID controller consider that with the ram it has onboard you should see some increase in performance for games. Don't give up!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:43 am 
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Netcell's RAID-XL is far superior to your puny RAID-1 or 0 or 5 for that matter... :P


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:46 am 
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Alex T. wrote:
I would also try testing this config using a highend 3ware SATA RAID controller consider that with the ram it has onboard you should see some increase in performance for games. Don't give up!


This rapes any 3ware card.


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maxx wrote:
Netcell's RAID-XL is far superior to your puny RAID-1 or 0 or 5 for that matter... :P


Out of curiousity, what drives are you using on yours? I was using WD Special Editions and kept having problems. When it worked, it was AWESOME.


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I use Hitachi's S-ATA 7k250 Deskstars. Haven't had any issues yet.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:34 am 
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maxx wrote:
I use Hitachi's S-ATA 7k250 Deskstars. Haven't had any issues yet.


Cool, I'll check 'em out. I'll have to get the PATA equivilent though, as I have the 'older' XL-3000.


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