vig1lant3 wrote:
Curious that you assume to know exactly what generation I am affiliated with. That condescending approach to any debate belies your ignorance. Never respond to the temptation of bravado's blind leap of faith. It generally results in the underestimating of one's opponent.
garetjax wrote:
I find it ironic that you insist on bandying the term condescension in this thread, considering your very first effort was laden with sarcasm and a condescending attitude. Naturally, you then have the gall to defend your poor behavior by insinuating that you somehow have earned the right to speak that way to people, hence, my astute observation of this sense of entitlement you wantonly exhibit.
My original post was a bit condescending in attitude, but not on a personal level. I did not set out to attack any specificity of the original post, but the idea in general. The only sense of entitlement I have is that to an opinion. I fought to protect it, and I will exercise it. If you find that offensive, well that's just an added little bonus I guess.

vig1lant3 wrote:
I was in a sarcastic mood, so I don't think it was at all unnecessary. I did my time, I can speak my mind.
garetjax wrote:
If I only knew one thing about you, (other than your being an insufferable bore when writing prose), it is the fact that while you borrow pithy idioms from Sun Tzu and cultivate this all-knowing, vastly superior persona, you are a slave to your emotions and allow them to control you. This speaks volumes about your lack of discipline and your mental (dis)order. To wit, as you are familiar with Sun Tzu, you would know that the one trait Sun Tzu valued more than any other was discipline.
I've no need to cultivate an all knowing or superior persona. How exactly would that benefit me? If anything it would discredit, so I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you know very little of me. Perhaps your observations are just manifestations of the inadequacy that you feel in comparison. Age, experience, hard work, and dedication have taught me the things that I need to know in life, and I am anything but a slave to my emotions. To this day the effect of my time in service has provided me a level of discipline that few others enjoy, and I am very thankful for it. As far as Sun Tsu goes, his appreciation of discipline was not a personal manifest, but a byproduct of his cultural heritage.
vig1lant3 wrote:
I can assure you that everything laid down in this post is quite well thought out and meted out only through decades of experience.
garetjax wrote:
That is entirely debatable and highly improbable. Your "decades" of experience, no doubt spent in various dusty, now-defunct bookstores, are hardly qualifiers in determining CPU Magazines' worth. Let us be clear: The initial debate swirled around whether or not MPC was "correct" in offering non-PC related reviews, in this case DSLRs. The debate also hinges on whether a magazine can survive by offering PC-only related content, to which CPU Magazine was mentioned as having successfully done so for many years. Whether or not you approve of CPU Magazine is irrelevant; please see below for further explanation:
My approval of CPU magazine was not part of the debate, but a personal observation, and the debate is less invigorating now since you managed to miss the whole point. I thought I made it quite clear, but apparently I over-estimated you. There was never any denial that CPU Magazine has managed to survive. The point is that in this economic downturn, direct competition is NOT a feasible strategy due the plethora reasons listed in my prior post. Please re-read them as I abhor redundancy.
vig1lant3 wrote:
I've probably read more issues of CPU magazine than you've seen, and to be completely honest I find it dry and unappealing.
garetjax wrote:
You made a statement, painting generalities with broad strokes, and shown you were wrong. In lieu of objectively wrapping your mind around this new information, you persist in injecting your personal feelings towards the magazine itself. No one cares if you worked in a bookstore and found the magazine to be dry and unappealing; that was not the point. The point is that CPU Magazine sticks very closely to PC-only content, unlike MPC, and enjoys a large reader base while doing so, therefore rendering your argument about "diversification" in magazines completely void in this particular debate.
When was I ever shown that I was wrong? I am always eager to wrap my head around new info. I'm presently using by GI Bill to go back to college, so I'm in the habit of wrapping my head around new information on a daily basis. If you have something insightful to say, please stop keeping it to yourself. I did interject my personal feelings about the magazine, but that was never a point of the debate. You need to stop confusing rhetoric with fact, because now we're just talking in circles. And once again you managed to miss the point completely. Diversification is exactly what is necessary to avoid direct competition in the increasingly shrinking market of printed periodicals. The 2010 circulation rate for MaxPC magazine was estimated at 250,000. It's not a number that inspires supreme confidence. Conversely your precious CPU magazine is published by the same company that watched as a sister magazine PCModder went under. This is a more cut throat business than I think you realize. Vying for the attention of readers (especially those in small interest demographics like computing) is a very precise business. Market research and marketing strategies are developments that occur independent of the editorial staff. If there is money to be made by diversification, it would have to be considered a substantial opportunity to risk alienating the present subscription base.
vig1lant3 wrote:
If your only example is the continued existence of CPU magazine, then I would have to say that is a flimsy argument at best. If you would like to I eagerly look forward to the debate, but privately I am concerned that you may not be so foolish.
garetjax wrote:
Allow me to clarify that I am no fool: I wholly understand the power of diversification as being the foundation for success. However, in this instance I have shown that, in PC-focused magazines, success is not dependent solely on diversification. Again, CPU Magazine is but one example of this and your personal feelings on the publication have no bearing on this debate. Your persistence in pushing aside the facts I bring to the debate is not only illogical, but also tactically unsound. Further continuing this debate seems unlikely, as I would likely be forced to endure more of your stuffy, obtuse, nonsensical and decidedly self-centered style of writing.
It's entirely possible that you are not a fool. It matters little to me, I'm simply observing your actions and considering your points. You haven't brought any facts to the debate that don't support my position. Your claim that a CPU centric magazine can survive was dually noted two posts ago. You obviously aren't any closer to grasping my point since you just seem to be recycling yours. Have you ever taken an economics class? Do you really have any idea what your talking about from a fundamentalist standpoint? Do you really not see how publishing CPU Magazine part 2 would be a bad idea? If the market was so large as you assume it is, Sandhills Publishing Company would publish it themselves. And describing my posts as stuffy, obtuse, nonsensical, and self-centered might be an astute observation, but it is also another example of the pot calling the kettle black. It's an entirely hypocritical, simple, inflammatory statement that accomplishes nothing.
garetjax wrote:
I trust that my reply was not, how shall I say, too "aggressive" for your elitist sensibilities.

Not at all.